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Airport spokesman: Charlotte teen possibly fell from plane [TSA failed to catch stowaway?]
Charlotte Observer ^ | Nov 23 2010 | Franco Ordoñez

Posted on 11/23/2010 7:24:56 PM PST by TaxRelief

Police are investigating the possibility that Tisdale stowed away in a jet wheel well and fell to his death when the doors opened on the jet's approach to landing last week in Boston, according to an airport spokesman.

(Excerpt) Read more at charlotteobserver.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: airplane; boston; charlotte; patdowns; runaway; stowaway; tsa; tsapervs
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TSA pat downs and xrays do nothing to prevent stowaways at major international airport hub?
1 posted on 11/23/2010 7:25:02 PM PST by TaxRelief
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To: TaxRelief

More details here:

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/11/22/1857234/body-found-in-mass-that-of-local.html


2 posted on 11/23/2010 7:27:10 PM PST by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family healthy and on-budget since 1993.)
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To: TaxRelief

Boston...where the FBI collaborated with Whitey Bulger and the Winter Hill Gang, to the point of condoning, or even suggesting, murder. The FBI and local police and many others all worked to help Whitey.

Then there is the coverup of that college professor who shot her brother with a shotgun, just coming to light, from so long ago.

Sure, the teen fell out of an airplane wheel well. The evidence so far? Planes sometimes pass over Milton on the way to BOS.

The kid had a pretty clean profile, as far as I’ve seen so far.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.


3 posted on 11/23/2010 7:30:56 PM PST by DBrow
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To: TaxRelief

He either was crushed by the retracting landing gear, froze to death or died for lack of O2.


4 posted on 11/23/2010 7:32:04 PM PST by woofer2425 (You will all be using Macs within 5 years)
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To: DBrow

Do you think they will attempt to cover it up so it does not look like a TSA fail?


5 posted on 11/23/2010 7:34:50 PM PST by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family healthy and on-budget since 1993.)
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To: TaxRelief

Once again too busy staring at those hot bomb shells, catheters, and toddlers.


6 posted on 11/23/2010 7:41:46 PM PST by Soothesayer (“None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license...")
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To: TaxRelief

From now on... anyone who even thinks about flying... gets a pat down. /s


7 posted on 11/23/2010 7:41:58 PM PST by John123 (If Teddy was the lion of the senate... then we were the prey.)
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To: woofer2425

Assuming he was on an A321 Airbus, I looked for a diagram of the retracting gear, and it did not look like there was much room for a stowaway, so perhaps crushed. Looking at the usual flight pattern on flightaware for the A321, it looks like it typically reaches 35K feet. How cold is that?

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE538Q


8 posted on 11/23/2010 7:42:22 PM PST by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family healthy and on-budget since 1993.)
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To: TaxRelief
Relax. The TSA does.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

9 posted on 11/23/2010 7:45:28 PM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: TaxRelief

Run that plane up to 35,000 feet.

Do you die of asphyxia or hypothermia first?


10 posted on 11/23/2010 7:49:37 PM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: TaxRelief

Well, I don’t know. My original paranoid tinfoil hat post was working on the assumption that some powerful local person had disposed of an inconvenient boy toy, and the cops were covering by claiming he’d dropped out of the sky.

A TSA coverup would have the kid be a discarded boy toy who was beaten with a sledgehammer.

We’ll have to wait and see; forensics will find out if he was frozen, asphyxiated, and or crushed, if so then the airplane thing would be plausible, if the examiner is honest.


11 posted on 11/23/2010 7:53:29 PM PST by DBrow
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Pretty darn cold...there’s a reason those old B-17 crews were suited up in multiple layers topped with sheepskin coveralls.

I recall reading as a child about two teens who tried to escape from Cuba by hiding in a 707 or DC-8 wheel well. One fell to his death, the other nearly died of hypothermia but lived...and that jet flew from Havana to somewhere in southerne Florida (Miami, probably) so it didn’t get anywhere near a typical cruising altitude.


12 posted on 11/23/2010 7:59:20 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: woofer2425

You are exactly correct. All of the above are deadly in this case. Every so often I hear of one of the stowaway in the wheel well cases and they all end very gruesomely. I don’t know how anybody could be so crazy to try this.

I recall a case just like this one many, many years ago with a kid from Colombia doing exactly the same on a flight to Miami. Some poor homeowner who lived along the airport landing path awake to find a mangled mess of a body on his lawn. What a hell of a shock to experience.


13 posted on 11/23/2010 8:02:26 PM PST by untwist
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To: DBrow
if the examiner is honest

How much does an examiner cost in Boston?

14 posted on 11/23/2010 8:02:53 PM PST by stripes1776
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“How much does an examiner cost in Boston?”

lol Well, what’s your last name and how authoritative can you be when saying “Do you know who I am?”


15 posted on 11/23/2010 8:09:02 PM PST by DBrow
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How much does an examiner cost in Boston?

Ask Ted Kennedy.

16 posted on 11/23/2010 8:36:49 PM PST by PAR35
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To: DBrow

So whatever the autopsy results we assume the opposite? :)


17 posted on 11/23/2010 8:58:36 PM PST by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family healthy and on-budget since 1993.)
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re: How cold is that?

Temperature falls three and a half degrees per 1,000 feet of altitude. So at 35,000 feet it would about 122 degrees colder than at ground level. If you started out with a temp of 75 degrees it would be -40 something at 35,000 feet. Brrr!

He would not have fallen from that altitude though, they don’t lower their gear until they are near the airport and by that time they’ve descended quite a bit.


18 posted on 11/23/2010 9:08:35 PM PST by jwparkerjr (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: TaxRelief

lol No, we must wait and see. This is pretty unusual.

I had been studying some stuff on Massachusetts, Bolger, FBI, and Winter Hill when I read this article. I mashed it all together and assumed that the kid did not fallout of a plane, there was a simpler, more reasonable, Massachusetts-type cause like Gerry Studds or Barney Frank or a host of priests would be involved in.


19 posted on 11/23/2010 9:13:34 PM PST by DBrow
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“Police told the Herald on Friday Tisdale had severe head trauma — with some of his remains found in two places on the street — and his arms and legs were broken.”

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1298347

Yet they still insist it is only a “remote possibility”.


20 posted on 11/23/2010 9:15:55 PM PST by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family healthy and on-budget since 1993.)
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