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To: DanMiller

I just traveled. Through an airport that has scanners (Las Vegas), and was fully ready to be scanned if asked.

A scan doses you at the same level of radiation you will get from TWO MINUTES of cruising altitude flight on the jet you’re about to board.

I know the scanners don’t detect everything but I don’t care. I want them there. I want as much anti-bomb technology as possible. I want to arrive at my destination with my butt still firmly attached to the rest of my body... thank you.

My only worry in all this is that muzzies get an exemption. If muzzies get an exemption, I’m willing to join any anti-TSA, anti-Obama, anti-HS protest available.

So far, from what I understand, there is no muzzie exemption in place. To my mind, that’s the issue here. Is there a muzzie exemption, or isn’t there.

If there is no muzzie exemption, count me as a happy flier... fire up the scanner and I’ll walk right through with a smile on my face.


12 posted on 11/21/2010 6:09:32 AM PST by samtheman
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To: samtheman

Maybe you haven’t read this thread yet then.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2630512/posts


14 posted on 11/21/2010 6:25:47 AM PST by CajunConservative (0, we'll stop treating you like a dog, when you stop treating us like a hydrant.)
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To: samtheman; MamaDearest; freekitty; Piquaboy; sheik yerbouty; flat; NorwegianViking; unkus; ...

Anyone willing to go through a Big Brother scanner and who is stupid enough to believe Big Brother these days, would be wise to talk to an oncologist who knows about radiation. I’ve heard of four doctors that say “don’t” go through them.

It’s your health and, if you don’t care that in a few years you are diagnosed with cancer because of these machines, hey go for it.


23 posted on 11/21/2010 7:41:53 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: samtheman

“I’ll walk right through with a smile on my face” Can we assume you will walk right into the FEMA camps the same way?


24 posted on 11/21/2010 7:45:54 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2
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To: samtheman

Are you afraid to travel on the subway because they don’t use electronic strip search on every passenger? Do you realize trains are a more likely target for Muslim terrorists than planes? Are you aware of the TSA, in their entire history, of catching even one terrorist?

We are paying billions of dollars for ineffective security theater that is also conditioning the public to accept any indignity by the government in the name of “national security”.


25 posted on 11/21/2010 7:56:55 AM PST by BigBobber
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To: samtheman

As a hard core conservative, I agree with you. The federal government should be tiny, but its main task is security. I’m all for better scanners, even if the next advance isn’t perfect for everyone. All of this hullabaloo about going “nude” in this scanner is exaggerated tripe that I would expect from liberals. No one is nude. Not even close.

The hollerers routinely go to medical clinics for safety’s sake and go actually nude, not “nude.” Or they go into a damn gym locker room, for pete’s sake. Or a men’s urinal, where privacy is a joke and where many other people can watch a person perform a bodily function.

Conservatives are not doing themselves a favor de-fanging airline security. Because this is where is it headed. Some of the libertarian fringe have come right out an said here on this site.


29 posted on 11/21/2010 8:14:24 AM PST by qwertypie
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To: samtheman
A scan doses you at the same level of radiation you will get from TWO MINUTES of cruising altitude flight on the jet you’re about to board.

Intensity isn't everything; wavelengths matter. And questions have been raised about DNA resonance effects of the millimeter-wave machines.

I know the scanners don’t detect everything but I don’t care. I want them there. I want as much anti-bomb technology as possible.

So presumably you won't mind when your plane is blown up by a body-cavity bomb which none of this will detect (maybe it can be disguised by adding packets of cocaine?), or a bomb carried by a Muslim under her burka somewhere below her shoulders where Obama says she cannot be patted down, right?

But if you're happy with this, then good on you.

30 posted on 11/21/2010 8:15:17 AM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: samtheman

TSA apologists like you deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.


36 posted on 11/21/2010 12:19:04 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (TSA apologists deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. END the TSA.)
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To: samtheman
A scan doses you at the same level of radiation you will get from TWO MINUTES of cruising altitude flight on the jet you’re about to board.

That's what TSA says. As you may know, they have lied before. Also, do you really imagine you could take a picture of an object, say a penny, in a plane by placing it on a film for 2 minutes. In contrast, you will surely get it (as a negative of a circle) if you place a penny on a film when you go behind the scanner (you can get far more considering how many pixels they get on their screens). They haven't given technical specs of the exposure to anyone outside government and prohibit TSA operators from wearing radiation badges.

Note also that comparing high energy cosmic radiation (typically gamma) to low energy X ray photons is comparing apples and oranges.

a) One cosmic ray photon will have equal energy as millions of soft X ray photons. Yet each of these photons may break a chemical bond if it strikes a molecule, hence even though you are exposed to the same energy from 1 cosmic ray (gamma) photon as from million X ray photons, the latter will break many more chemical bonds (each break is a possible mutations, e.g. if it is on the DNA molecule).

b) Soft X ray photons have much larger wavelength than cosmic ray photons, hence much greater cross section with interaction with molecules. Hence even one for one, each X ray photon has more chance of striking molecule than a gamma ray cosmic photon (because of greater cross section).

c) Each pixel they get on their screen is equivalent to at least one back-scattered X ray photon (along with damaged molecules from which it bounced back, plus all molecules for photons absorbed i.e. those that didn't bounce). Those images we have seen seem to have several millions pixels (1000x1000 is 1 million pixels), hence you will have tens or hundreds of millions damaged molecules after the scan. While many will be just water molecules, some will be proteins in your retina and some DNA in your skin cells, thus causing mutation, possibly cancerous.

d) Ask your doctor should pregnant womenm, children or elderly go through it? Ask also about eyesight damage. Doctors are already advising patients to opt out.

e) Experts on this technology are warning, based on quality and size of published images, that TSA's proclamations are at least one to two orders of magnitude understated (because of comparisons of apples and oranges and because of using volume rather than surface exposure units, which will superfically average the total absorbed radiation over all molecules in human body rather than just over molecules of the skin, making it thus appear as much lower average exposure per molecule; while cosmic gamma radiation will go through your entire body, mostly merely passing through due to low cross section, the soft X-ray photons from the scanners will either abosrb entirely or scatter inelastically from molecules, doing damage ether way).

43 posted on 11/21/2010 5:29:03 PM PST by nightlight7
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To: samtheman

“A scan doses you at the same level of radiation you will get from TWO MINUTES of cruising altitude flight on the jet you’re about to board.”

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What a good little sheeple you are. So naive, so trusting.....

Radiation Experts Concerned With TSA Airport Security Scanners
http://health.usnews.com/health-news/family-health/cancer/articles/2010/11/18/radiation-experts-concerned-with-tsa-airport-security-scanners


52 posted on 11/21/2010 6:19:48 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: samtheman

I’ll walk right through with a smile on my face.

__________________

Will you lick their boots as you pass through, and thank them?


59 posted on 11/21/2010 6:48:03 PM PST by mojitojoe (In itÂ’s 1600 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
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