As a hard core conservative, I agree with you. The federal government should be tiny, but its main task is security. I’m all for better scanners, even if the next advance isn’t perfect for everyone. All of this hullabaloo about going “nude” in this scanner is exaggerated tripe that I would expect from liberals. No one is nude. Not even close.
The hollerers routinely go to medical clinics for safety’s sake and go actually nude, not “nude.” Or they go into a damn gym locker room, for pete’s sake. Or a men’s urinal, where privacy is a joke and where many other people can watch a person perform a bodily function.
Conservatives are not doing themselves a favor de-fanging airline security. Because this is where is it headed. Some of the libertarian fringe have come right out an said here on this site.
We may all go marching into the camps together, but the fascists will shoot you too, even if you smile at them and ask for a kiss.
Thank you, qwertypie, for your excellent post. I’m going to link to it in my replies in the future.
These scans and screening violate our 4th Amendment rights.
You're not a hard core conservative.
You're not even a conservative.
You're a useful idiot for the left.
Troll....
The tradition of medical access to the whole body is millennia old and is logically rooted in the deeply personal nature of medical treatment. Whereas giving the state full access to the body of ordinary citizens for security’s sake is a feature of totalitarian regimes alone. Auschwitz, for example.
Furthermore, there is the matter of consent and why we give it. Medical treatment is for the benefit of the patient, and access is a matter of necessity to accomplish that benefit. But even so, consent is not given to any and all doctors. If your dentist began to grope you, you would be just as alarmed as by a TSA grope.
As for gym locker rooms, you have a point. I think there should be more modesty in such situations. Nevertheless, the arrangement is entirely voluntary and becoming a football star is not an expressly protected constitutional right like travel is.
As for rest rooms, you say privacy is a joke, I say speak for yourself. There is more effort at modestly there than you may recognize, and “peeking” is still taboo. I know I seek privacy in those situations, as I think all Christians and people of moral conviction should. Modesty is not optional for Christians, but an obligation of the faith.
The bigger issue is this. Is it conservative or not to seek enforcement of the Constitution? If it is, then getting stuck in a situation where I am coerced to let someone see through my clothes is definitely an unreasonable search of my person, per the Forth Amendment, and is the full moral equivalent of a strip search. And if we cannot protect our own persons from such unwanted intrusions, where do we stop the on slippery slope progression into always naked, all the time, to the brutish eyes of Big Brother? Of course it’s for our own good. It was in “1984,” too. Remember that book? Interesting read. You should try it sometime.
>>>You wrote:>>> No one is nude. Not even close. The hollerers routinely go to medical clinics for safety’s sake and go actually nude, not “nude.” Or they go into a damn gym locker room, for pete’s sake. Or a men’s urinal, where privacy is a joke and where many other people can watch a person perform a bodily function.>>>>>> The only way to stop this, is to stop using the airlines or raise a stink with the congress and threaten to throw them out of office if this isn't stopped by next election...
Have fun with your peeping...and enjoy herding your neighbors onto the cattle cars....
Oh, by the way, when taking X rays of you, you have this little covering on and its not done in the hall ways. It shows what is going on inside, not how you look on the outside, with one exception << Xray's show bones and organs not nuddy pictures like the scanners...get real and informed before posting, it will go a long way to looking less stupid..
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The scanners can see everything. Haven't you seen the photos? If not, you're not educated, if so, you're deliberately spreading misinformation.
I don't go to gym locker rooms or men's urinals. You may not care who sees your naked body or its "functions", but not everyone is immodest.