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Glenn Beck: They’re lying to us about the mystery contrail
Hot Air ^ | 11/19/2010 | Right Scoop

Posted on 11/20/2010 11:34:24 PM PST by JohnKinAK

Glenn Beck said today that he has spoken to military experts about the mystery contrail from a few weeks ago and he says it’s definitely not a plane, but rather a two stage missile. He just wants to know where it came from, and he has a theory. Beck postulates that this missile was possibly from a Chinese sub off the coast of California, perhaps as a show of force to the world, but even more so to President Obama.

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TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: beckisnuts; californiamissile; chat; contrail; jetcontrail; missile; missilemystery; mysterymissile; psychosis; tinfoilbrigade; ups902
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To: EternalVigilance
Many times at sunset or just after I’ve seen sunlight reflect off the aircraft.

Those Aircraft were at most five miles up. This boosting missile was at lease 40 miles away. We do not need to hypothesize reflected light at that distance, the missile exhaust was the light source.

221 posted on 11/21/2010 11:29:03 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
When you figure what my “game” is please let me know.

Shilling for those that do not believe in National Defense and a stronger military. Jingoism may just save our souls. Get tough or die!

222 posted on 11/21/2010 11:51:11 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: higgmeister

Does that include flouridation in the water Gen. Ripper?

Relax. I wanna nuke the commmies too.

But this wasn’t one of them. It was a airliner.


223 posted on 11/22/2010 12:43:09 AM PST by Names Ash Housewares ( Refusing to kneel before the "messiah".)
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To: Quix; All

Contrailscience's big day..


224 posted on 11/22/2010 12:44:21 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave (To anger a Conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a Liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: RFEngineer
Well in this case the “newbies” are right.

So, you've seen some conclusive evidence?

225 posted on 11/22/2010 2:06:40 AM PST by The Duke
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To: JohnKinAK

Here's a neighborhood under multiple warhead attack by Chi Coms, the MSM, and a vast U.S. government conspiracy.

226 posted on 11/22/2010 2:23:20 AM PST by Dagnabitt ("Obama" - Swahili for "Fail")
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To: Names Ash Housewares

I hope you are joking??? Please don’t tell me you believe that....

Los Angeles is the second largest city in the United States. There are a lot of aircraft that come in and go out of there everyday. If that was the case, then you would see it EVERYDAY multiple times a day! You would not have people in the city freaking out. LOL! Don’t believe everything the government tells you. I’ll give you a little hint. They lie a lot! LOL!


227 posted on 11/22/2010 3:11:55 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: higgmeister

What is moon bat is believing everything the government tells you. That is MOONBAT! Especially, this administration! So I guess whatever government says you get on your hands and knees and kiss its feet?


228 posted on 11/22/2010 3:21:19 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: TigersEye
What severe angle? Perspective, perspective, perspective!

LAX webcam

From

Link to Cargo Law

229 posted on 11/22/2010 7:14:33 AM PST by Tommyjo
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To: The Duke

“So, you’ve seen some conclusive evidence?”

I think the better question should be given your professed credentials, is “How did you miss the conclusive evidence?”


230 posted on 11/22/2010 7:21:12 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: TigersEye
Almost being the operative word in your query? Only parts of the complete contrail will be visible. The thinner parts of the contrail won't show up. See following link.

'What size contrail can be seen in a satellite image?'

Link to NASA contrail website

Contact details for Dr Minnis if you need to query his assessment

Link to contact details

231 posted on 11/22/2010 7:26:25 AM PST by Tommyjo
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To: .44 Special
Persistent contrails can and do form to great lengths and size. See NASA contrail website on my previous post.

You also have to take into consideration the type of aircraft generating this contrail. UPS902 was a McDonnell Douglas MD-11. The tri-engined class and their contrails have been fooling sky watchers for years.

Link to MD-11 image producing large non-persistent contrail

It is also worthy of note that Gil Leyvas also witnessed a similar event on the 4th November. On the 4th November UPS902 was a McDonnell Douglas MD-11 flying the exact same route and times. Was it purely coincidence, or was he fooled again by an MD-11 contrail at sunset?

232 posted on 11/22/2010 7:47:06 AM PST by Tommyjo
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To: TigersEye
Why not take it up with Dr Minnis and his colleagues?

Snippet from the news article.

"Minnis then consulted a contrail "forecaster" put together by SSAI's David Duda and Rabindra Palikonda, who also work at Langley, and learned that conditions were "ripe" for persistent contrails over the Pacific west of Los Angeles, but that contrails would only survive for a short time closer to the coast."

All those people named can be contacted via their webpages. Do a search for them if you require to contact them?

233 posted on 11/22/2010 7:52:08 AM PST by Tommyjo
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To: =8 mrrabbit 8=
That is a Notice to Mariners. If you check the NGA portal you will see them for the Eastern North Pacific going back to 1999. There would have to be a NOTAM issued for such a US ballistic missile launch as some claimed happened on the 8th November.

That Notice to Mariners is no proof that a missile was launched. Airliners such as AWE808 and UPS that transited the area would have been aware of such a NOTAM. The FAA have also stated that there was no reports of unusual sightings from pilots in the area.

234 posted on 11/22/2010 7:59:10 AM PST by Tommyjo
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To: Las Vegas Dave

See my post above in reference to that NtM. That Notice to Mariners is no proof of a missile launch. Where is the NOTAM if it was a US ballistic missile launch?


235 posted on 11/22/2010 8:02:55 AM PST by Tommyjo
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To: databoss
GB is off his meds...

Again

236 posted on 11/22/2010 8:07:34 AM PST by fml
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To: TigersEye
Have you ever considered that the type of airliner and the atmospheric conditions is the key to this event?

You are already aware that Gil Leyvas noted a similar event on the 4th November. The same day that UPS 902 MD-11 flew the exact same route and time. Does it not add up that a unique contrail generated by a tri-engined MD-11 fooled Gil Leyvas twice at sunset?

237 posted on 11/22/2010 8:08:59 AM PST by Tommyjo
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To: fso301

Not to mention the resident of the islands, the LAX Air Traffic Controllers on visual watch. The event was also recorded by the LAX Webcam. I posted it further up. No vertical launch, but purely a horizontal contrail when you take into consideration perspective.


238 posted on 11/22/2010 8:14:38 AM PST by Tommyjo
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To: Dagnabitt

Thank God they have some bad aiming going on.


239 posted on 11/22/2010 8:25:06 AM PST by commonguymd (A de facto single party country is nigh. The partisan bickering is a mere bilking mechanism.)
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To: Sprite518

I’m a private pilot that has seen the elements of this illusion before personally.

Given that, and the FACT that nobody reported seeing a rocket launch outside of the very narrow area the illusion was possible to be seen from and dozens of other facts about that day, it was an aircraft.

People are getting emotionally wrapped up in this and want it to be something it is not.

Sorry, but again, private pilot here, one that has flown the SoCal area off and on since the mid eighties.
I;ve seen a lot of contrails and airliners over the years in all kinds of weather conditions.

This was very much an airliner. I knew it the first few seconds into the video. it was moving too slow in relation to the trail it was leaving, it was in the sky too long for any missile or rocket I have seen. And I have seen many rockets launch out of Vandenberg.

Guys, it was an aircraft.

There is no massive super secret coverup.

Your all sounding nuts if you think that.


240 posted on 11/22/2010 8:25:48 AM PST by Names Ash Housewares ( Refusing to kneel before the "messiah".)
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