Posted on 11/20/2010 11:34:24 PM PST by JohnKinAK
Glenn Beck said today that he has spoken to military experts about the mystery contrail from a few weeks ago and he says it’s definitely not a plane, but rather a two stage missile. He just wants to know where it came from, and he has a theory. Beck postulates that this missile was possibly from a Chinese sub off the coast of California, perhaps as a show of force to the world, but even more so to President Obama.
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It at least means I think you made some great points . . . interesting points.
In that case, It also meant that I am inclined to agree with the perspective presented in your post.
Yet, I didn’t want to take the time to really get into it. LOL.
Therefore . . . Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
LOL OK, FRiend, just teasing you a bit for your unique and genuine posting style. And uniquely genuine too! ;-)
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Too many unexplained or poorly explained things going on with military homeland security duties right now.
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1. We had a jihadist kill soldiers on the Fort Hood base and no investigation and punishment.
2. We the the missiles shut down on their own in Wyoming.
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3. We had the chi-coms sneak up on a US ship in a submarine.
4. We have the chi-coms and North Korea harassing and threatening the US and our allies at sea.
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5. We have the chi-com brass threatening to send a missile into the US if we don't do as they dictate in economic policy.
6. We have an American civilian liner hit with what appears to be, from witness testimony, an EMT attack of some sort.
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7. And now we have what looks like a missile off the California coast that everyone is swearing is not a missile.
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Too many unhappy coincidenses for the Muslim in the White Hut.
As I zoomed in I used a two-times extender on the lens to get a closer look, and you could tell that the object, whatever it was, was spriraling up in the sky. You could see the clouds were kind of swirling and as I zoomed in and got tighter on it, it appeared that it was spinning and going in a westerly direction.
A spinning object!
UPS, taken to new heights !!!
Delivering milkshakes to phony contrail science websiters ?
Thanks so much for all the pings. I’m slowly catching back up with the news. I don’t buy the “cargo flight” explanation either.
“What strikes me as being strange is how important it is to so many newbies here on Free Republic to label this particular incident as benign.”
Well in this case the “newbies” are right. Credentials don’t win a losing argument.
Snootiness seems to know no bounds . . . even FREEPER snootiness.
Sigh.
Well, I’m uneasy about a missile, but I see people on both sides who all seem very sure they are correct, and all who *appear* to have valid expertise telling OPPOSITE things that cannot both be true. So, I have to start looking at agendas.
I thought that might be the case.
And I greatly appreciate your contributions on FR.
Thanks for your kind words.
I can certainly be dreadfully pedantic at times.
And, I tend to have a bias toward taking things seriously regardless. One of my traits/flaws.
LUB
Freepers have given me a thick skin. It’s a good thing. :)
THX.
God’s health, wholeness and provision to you and your family.
Blessed Thanksgiving to you.
Heading for the shower.
Suffice it to say that no matter what is on that video CBS has acted irresponsibly given the public reaction. Creating confusion Rather than informing seems to be the media’s main occupation and SeeBS is at the forefront in the field.
Gee, I wonder why CBS won’t release the whole tape ???
It’s just a contrail, doncha know ... ?
So why not laugh and release the whole thing to prove it? Why not?
Or, wait.
Could it be that for the first 12 hours they didn’t know what they had???
And now they have been instructed to ... ???
I wonder what is so secretive about a contrail video?
What?
And why?
So,
Glenn Beck told ya
Canada Free Press told ya
Three star famous Gen Thomas G McInerney with 40 years experience told ya “That Is A Missile Shot From A Submarine! There is no doubt!”
LAX webcam owners told ya: “Unique. Very rapidly disappeared in under 90 seconds … like nothing we have ever seen before here at LAX on our webcam …” and they have been based at LAX for nearly 20 years !!!
Deputy Secretary of Defense Robert Ellsworth, told ya with laughing amazement in his voice as he tells the reporters: “It is a big missile !!! Spectacular! Breath taking !!!” ... He certainly told ya !!!
Doug Richardson, Jane’s Military Magazine Missile Expert told ya the truth: “Ballistic Missile, No Doubt !!!”
“It can’t belong to anyone but the military,” said Marco Caceres, an analyst with Teal Group Corp., a Fairfax, Va.-based aerospace research firm.
The guy who has launched many from Cape Canaveral told ya, right here on this thread...
The guy who has actually launched many from Vandenberg base told ya, right here on FR.
Hell, even I told ya!
Or you could go with the Pentagon: Not a threat, nothing to see, pay no attention to this missile fired just off the coast of Los Angeles ...
Now I wonder why they would say that ... ?
Don't worry ... I would have to look up 'pedantic' before I could lay that one on you. Out of respect I will leave the dictionary on the shelf. hehe
I have noticed that you have offered a stream of generally neutral common sense suggestions on this subject. Much needed and it is appreciated.
From the Telegraph in the UK:
Doug Richardson, the editor of Jane’s Missiles and Rockets, said it might have been a Standard interceptor, the anti-missile weapon which is fitted to the US Navy’s Aegis guided-missile cruisers as part of the American missile defence programme.
He said: “It’s a solid propellant missile, you can tell from the efflux [smoke] but they’re not showing enough of the tape to show whether it’s staging [jettisoning its sections].”
Robert Ellsworth, the former US Deputy Secretary of Defence, said it was “pretty big” but “not a Tomahawk” cruise missile.
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Ellsworth said: “It could be a test firing of an intercontinental ballistic missile from a submarine to demonstrate to Asia that we can do that.”
US President Barack Obama is presently on tour in Asia and gave a speech in Jakarta, in Indonesia, on Wednesday.
The authorities have examined their radar records to check that no foreign power was behind it. Last week, the Japanese Navy test-fired an American Standard interceptor from one of its Kongo-class guided-missile destroyers off Kauai, in Hawaii, but there were no known plans for another test this week.
Others have speculated that it could be a target which was launched to test anti-missile lasers which are currently being developed and do get trialled in the Pacific.
There have even been those keen to announce it as an alien UFO.
A more down-to-earth - and non-military - explanation was given by John Pike, director of the US-based security analyst firm globalsecurity.org.
He said: “The local station chopped up the video and so it’s hard to watch it continuously but at one place you can see it has changed course - rockets don’t do that.”
Say what??? They do exactly that, don’t they? It a missile ...
He added it was most likely to be a normal aircraft contrail which appears different in the sun: “It’s an airplane that is heading toward the camera and the contrail is illuminated by the setting sun.”
Others have claimed it could be the work of amateur missile enthusiasts. In 2004, a group called the Civilian Space eXploration Team flew a 21ft rocket with a solid fuel motor to 72 miles high (116km) from a launch site in Nevada.
That’s the ticket !!!
We will have to wait and see as more evidence comes out. And hopefully there will be some grownups in government that will take control and issue the correct response when the time comes.
Why is everyone quoting contrailscience?
Yes, why?
Digging into trying to find out who contrailscience’s owner is, I had no luck in finding out “WHO” they were to be able to be so called credible??
See below;
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/contrailscience.com
http://who.godaddy.com/WhoIs.aspx?domain=contrailscience.com&isc=ALEXADOM
Chetrail science
quoted by weird screamin’ government shills, it seems.
Thanks for the ping!
We will have to wait and see as more evidence comes out. And hopefully there will be some grownups in government that will take control and issue the correct response when the time comes.
I’ve spent 30 aears at Kennedy Space Center and at Cape Canaveral and I’ve watched more shuttle and expendable launches that you can imagine.
The contrail in question was not a fixed wing aircraft. Contrails begin to evaporate fairly soon after generation. Additionally, the exhaust trail in question has a shape, depth, density, and opacity that is totally alien to contrails.
Ladies/Gents, that is the exhaust trail of a solid propellant rocket; not a liquid fuelled rocket or aircraft contrail - SOLID PROPELLANT ROCKET.
Now, who launched it is another question.
Well said
From someone who would know
Now get yer dopey that’s-a-contrailer anti flame suit on ...
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