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Reform Math (Is YOUR school teaching progressive math??)
American Thinker ^ | November 19, 2010 | Jason and Genevieve McNew

Posted on 11/19/2010 6:55:16 AM PST by Gennie

November 19, 2010

'Reform Math'

By Jason and Genevieve McNew

Pay attention to what our children are being taught. Not even simple arithmetic is safe from progressive stupidity.

Apples and peaches make great neighbors. Here in "upper" Adams County, Pennsylvania (also the seat of Gettysburg and the battlefields), there are twenty thousand acres of fruit trees. Many businesses are closed on Sundays, and "traffic" consists of getting stuck behind a combine or waiting for the flock of mallards that live behind the 7-11 to finish crossing Route 394. I have often compared it to Mayberry.

We moved here in June of 2005, with the first of our four children entering kindergarten in 2007. Like many other conservatives who have been caught sleeping at philosophy's wheel, we stupidly assumed that those persons running the local school district would hold values roughly in line with our own. We could not have been more wrong.

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To: Gennie
Youtube video - Division the Everyday Mathematics way!!!
21 posted on 11/19/2010 7:39:32 AM PST by Gennie
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To: Gennie

As someone who has a graduate degree from UChicago’s mathematics school, I am sad to hear this is the crap they are advocating. I’d expect this kind of crap from the vacuum heads in the education department, but mathematics is about rigor, elegance, and conciseness. None of the three are present in these methodologies. Next time Dean Fefferman sends me an email asking for alumni contributions, I may bring this up, especially the “lattice method” baloney.

The way to reform our math education in this country is to present it more theoretically, like it is in Western Europe and like it was in ancient Greece. This is a move in the wrong direction.


22 posted on 11/19/2010 7:40:51 AM PST by Thane_Banquo (Mitt Romney: He's from Harvard, and he's here to help.)
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To: goldi

I live within walking distance of a catholic school- it teaches new math and “Balanced Language” (ie, whole language with just enough phonics pasted on that parents don’t ask questions). I wasn’t too impressed by the prayer to the Lakotan Spirit Father in the 2nd grade religion textbook, either.

So we drive them 20 minutes away to a Catholic school that teaches Saxon Math, phonics, and makes all their teachers swear loyalty to the magisterium.

And it’s cheaper, because unlike the parish school, they actually have substantial sibling discounts. Ya know, beacause Catholics are supposed to be open to life, or something like that....


23 posted on 11/19/2010 7:42:17 AM PST by Eepsy
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To: MrB

I was having a discussion with a liberal who had just completed her late in life college degree from our local leftist university and she was explaining to me that there are no absolutes in the world, not in science and even in math. It’s part of the liberal revisionist history meta narrative. She says that there are always exceptions, so there can be no absolute truth, everything is relative. Get it?

Anyway, I’ve been doing a little research on how to teach math to a baby so that he will grow up with an inherent understanding of math (for my grandson). Our family are all visual learners and sight readers. My grandson started reading at about 13 months with the “My Baby Can Read” program. It really worked, but I wondered about math. What I found out is that you start with the concept, not the numerals. Never show a baby the number one or two, etc. Show them two objects or two dots. The child will grow up understanding what two is, rather than reading the numeral. Everything after that follows the same concept, groups of tens, etc. It make sense to me.


24 posted on 11/19/2010 7:43:25 AM PST by Eva
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To: Gennie
The lattice method looks similar to the way of doing multiplication with Napier's bones. Is it the main method or is it taught as a preliminary way before the method I was taught (the entire top number multiplied by one digit at a time of the second number with in-place carrying)? Similarly, the addition method looks like the normal method of addition except it doesn't have in-place carrying. If both of these are early ways of teaching the operations before the teacher says "Now let me show you a shortcut", then I don't see too much trouble. If they don't then teach the more efficient method then there is a problem.

The estimation section makes sense. You don't always need exact numbers. If your yard is 96 feet by 147 feet, buying 15,000 square feet of fertilizer is close enough. Estimating before doing a final solution also helps prevent big errors, so if you calculate 147x96 by hand and get 2205 you will know the answer is wrong because it isn't close to 15,000. Estimation was vital in the days of the slide rules because you had to use it to tell if 147x96 was 14.112, 141.12, 1411.2, 14112 or 141120, but that was a little before my time.

I didn't like the arrogance of the school with their statement "that her parents had taught her math 'the old way' and that it was 'confusing and a step behind.'" Most of these new methods just seem to be introductory step-by-step methods that are slower than the traditional methods.

My inner cynic says that many of these new methods are primarily there to sell new textbooks, workbooks and other instructional materials. Has elementary math really advanced in the past two hundred years? Science has, health and anatomy have, geography has, but math has been the same. You could take a 1920s math book and teach the kids.

25 posted on 11/19/2010 7:44:35 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Dems' response to 11/2: Do not go gentle into that new day,Rage,rage against the coming of the dawn!)
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To: Gennie

It’s still important to teach the fundamentals. These are the building blocks for understanding how math works and how to apply it to other problems one will encounter in life.

Once the fundamentals are there, some of this “EM” stuff are actually pretty cool shortcuts for getting answers to larger multiplication problems, etc in your head.

Many people have figured out these “shortcuts” on their own based on ... you guessed it, their understanding of the “fundamentals.”.

And that’s how it *should* be.


26 posted on 11/19/2010 7:46:48 AM PST by rayvd
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To: sniper63

Good for you for standing up for your kids. In my school system I usually deal with the opposite. It is not a state graduation requirement for students to take speech class. Our school has recently made it a graduation requirement and all juniors now take speech. Word about it not being a state requirement got out, and now I have two students who refuse to participate or give speeches. They and their moms plan on suing the school if we don’t allow them to graduate. We try to do something to improve our students and better prepare them for college, and then we have parents (also part of the electorate!) that kick us in the teeth.


27 posted on 11/19/2010 7:48:34 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Gennie

I tutor Middle School math. The Math Idiocy never ceases to amaze me. I always walk my kids through — ‘here’s how I was taught.’ Have had many kids say, “I wish you were my math teacher.” I am not a math genius, but I do have a lot of common sense, and the math programs do not.

I suspect that a lot of the math teachers don’t understand the new ways, either. One teacher told me, when I was helping one of her students — “If you are going to help him, you should get the Teachers’ Manual on how to teach this as well.’ For a 4th grader? Not in your wildest dreams.

It is Math Theory designed by single, male, PhD-track ‘educators’ who want to make a niche for themselves. They do not understand Piaget, they do not understand kids, and they have absolutely NO common sense.

(Don’t get me started).


28 posted on 11/19/2010 7:48:37 AM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: momto6

“Idiotic school taught my oldest son lattice math”.

I have had nightmares over this! I tried to figure it out for several hours and finally wrote a note to the teacher stating that this concept was stupid and did nothing but confuse a child with simple math. (at the point I wrote the note, I had a splitting headache and was just too tired to try and write something “nice”) Another dumb lesson is ESTIMATING. My son got an “F” on his math test on estimating because he gave the real answer. The teacher asked him why he didn’t estimate and his reply is priceless... “estimating is only good for hand grenades and horse shoes. You use math to build brides and make medicine for people. Estimate wrong and you kill people... Not going to kill people”. He was eight at the time and we still laugh and laugh. Just a thought.


29 posted on 11/19/2010 7:48:40 AM PST by momtothree
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To: Gennie

1. Teaching Math In 1950’s

A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of
production is 4/5 of the price. What is his profit ?

2. Teaching Math In 1960’s

A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of
production is 4/5 of the price, or $80. What is his profit?

3. Teaching Math In 1970’s

A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of
production is $80. Did he make a profit?

4. Teaching Math In 1980’s

A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of
production is $80 and his profit is $20. Your assignment: Underline
the number 20.

5. Teaching Math In 1990’s

A logger cuts down a beautiful forest because he is selfish
and inconsiderate and cares nothing for the habitat of animals or the
preservation of our woodlands. He does this so he can make a profit
of $20. What do you think of this way of making a living? Topic for
class participation after answering the question: How did the birds
and squirrels feel as the logger cut down their homes? (There are no
wrong answers, and if you feel like crying, it’s ok. )

6.. Teaching Math In 2010

Un hachero
vende una carretada de maderapara $100. El costo de la producciones
es $80. Cuanto dinero ha hecho?


30 posted on 11/19/2010 7:51:23 AM PST by dfwgator (Texas Rangers -Thanks for a great season.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
When I was in prep school during the first half of the Sixties, all the standard tests, PSAT, SAT, etc., were multiple choice in the math sections. I’d look at the answers first.

Interesting. I was a math wiz so I never bothered with that, but with reading comprehension questions on standardized tests I always read the questions and answers first and then read the paragraphs to find the answers - even when the teachers explicitly told us not to do it that way. My scores dropped significantly on some tests where the teacher would have us read something and then take away the reading section and ask us the questions.

31 posted on 11/19/2010 7:52:40 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Dems' response to 11/2: Do not go gentle into that new day,Rage,rage against the coming of the dawn!)
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To: Eva

Just read a book called “On Guard”.
I can logically refute the argument of “there is no absolute truth” in about 2 minutes if the LIQ understands the argument, in 5 minutes if I have to educate them first.


32 posted on 11/19/2010 7:58:11 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: momtothree

LOL!

It sounds like your son is already much smarter than his teacher.


33 posted on 11/19/2010 7:58:41 AM PST by Califreak (November 2008 proved that Idiocracy isn't just a movie anymore)
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To: Gennie

I was taught this math back in the mid sixties. It did not make sense to me as a kid. I failed math, my parents could not help because I had to make all the steps the school wanted, I could solve the problems just not write down the meandering method they wanted. I could not use the math my parents knew and were teaching me. I hated school, I finished the 9th grade, by the tenth grade I knew I wanted no part of the “New” way of teaching. I got my GED. Today I can add, subtract, divide and multiply very well and am a fine upstanding human, wife, mother and daughter. The system does not work - they tried it in the 60’s and threw it out by 70’s in my area.


34 posted on 11/19/2010 8:02:40 AM PST by Pilated
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To: Califreak

“It sounds like your son is already much smarter than his teacher”.

He has always had the ability to question authority respectfully but to always stand by what he knows as right or wrong. When he was in second grade, he had to “prove” why 1 + 1 = 2. Easy enough, right? He wrote because 2 - 1 = 1. That is the wrong answer. Then he wrote, “because it is, always has been, and always will be”. That, too, was wrong. The math teacher told him to really PROVE it so he wrote, “BECAUSE GOD MADE IT SO”. She didn’t know what to do and left the answer as correct. Gotta love it! Just a thought.


35 posted on 11/19/2010 8:06:46 AM PST by momtothree
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To: KarlInOhio

“I always read the questions and answers first and then read the paragraphs to find the answers - even when the teachers explicitly told us not to do it that way. “

Me too. I was disinterested, at best, in the classrooms. But I sure knew how to take tests! I had my career decided by the 8th Grade, and didn’t do really well in school, because I felt I wasn’t being taught what I needed to know. I was very frustrated in school!


36 posted on 11/19/2010 8:13:17 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Gennie

I just finished reading the rest of the article. I have to say that I don’t even understand the example of multiplication, but the part about using the tens first and adding the product of the ones, I get. My father in law was an accountant and he did that mentally when he was doing math in his head, but I think that concepts like that have to come naturally. I really think that the same total immersion concept that some schools use for teaching reading is what is needed for teaching math, combining all methods at once, but this seems way too complicated to be used in early grades.

You need to read about the Chicago small schools project to understand the thinking about education and politics that comes out of Chicago. Once you read about it, you’ll want to home school your kids if your local district buys into Chicago style education. The system was designed by Bill Ayers. That in itself should be enough to warn you that excellence and high achievement are not the goals.

I graduated from high school in PA, back in 1965, when the schools were really excellent and my high school was in the top ten in the nation. I had a better education in high school than most kids get in college, these days. I was writing papers on the “Effect of the Monroe Doctrine on US foreign policy during the prewar Civil war period” in eight grade and reading Bonhoeffer, Tillich and Niebuhr in my freshman year of college. Education has changed dramatically, and not for the better.


37 posted on 11/19/2010 8:16:38 AM PST by Eva
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To: Gennie

Folks, check with your school district. If they are using Everyday Math run away and find a school that either uses Saxton or Singapore. Sometimes Charter schools offer viable alternatives. If that does not work, look into private or homeschooling.

Seriously. I can not bring enough emphasis on how bad this program is.

My daughter was making an ANNUAL grade of 30 F (1 to 100) under this Everyday Math. We pulled her out of school, sent her to private school that taught Saxton. Now she is in highschool and is back to a solid B student. She still has troubles with basic addition and multiplication but we are working on that.


38 posted on 11/19/2010 8:21:58 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: Gennie

It is not just the public schools using these math books. Plenty of private schools are using them too.


39 posted on 11/19/2010 8:22:06 AM PST by Nevadan
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To: Gennie

I watched the video ... talk about making something too complicated


40 posted on 11/19/2010 8:29:25 AM PST by taxcontrol
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