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To: jazusamo; Quix; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; ...

Being a father of seven, with five of them now in adulthood, let me say something that all parents in their fiftys know.

When your children are crawling around and just pulling themselves up to stand at the the coffee table, you don’t think a lot about their late teen and adult years. But just turn around once, twice, and they are considering careers of their own.

It seems that just over night from their first steps, they are at the age for selective service registration.

So it is when they are toddlers, parents need to decide whether the family has any definite convictions (not merely “preferences”) concerning whether the children serve in the armed forces with sodomites. There must be a serious accounting of your convictions; from your “religious” faith, or from whatever source, but they must be firmly settled convictions, and not merely what you “prefer” to happpen.

Convictions which are traditional within your family’s faith and/or heritage must be deliberately taught to your children as a course of study, a family curriculum.

Obviously, there are families without any deeply settled convictions; usually in these cases, no deeply settled “religious” faith or family heritage.

You might observe that we emphasize here faith over “religion,” as we have a Christian faith and heritage in our family that we endeavor not to degrade with religion; “religion” as so loosely defined in the from the end of WWII to the present.

The word “religion,” as used in America, could be understood in a more pure Christian sense in the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries. In those generations, if someone had said that some person was “religious,” it would have most often been understood refering to a biblicist Christian faith. The word, “religion” appears only a couple of times in the Bible, and is always a reference to the fruit of a genuine life of faith; it never refers to belonging to a church or order, or the practicing of rites, ceremonies or sacraments.

We have a family heritage deeply and firmly rooted in a biblicist Christian faith, and this has produced convictions regarding many areas of life and morality that we have deliberately taught to our children.

As a result, none of our children condone nor countenance sodomy or the sodomite agenda. It is not merely based on what they would “prefer” to happen or not happen, but they are willing to have less in this life, and even to suffer to hold fast their Christian convictions.

Therefore, when our sons registered for selective service, they all filed documents as well that state their convictions concerning various issues, including, but not limited to (1) sodomy and sodomites serving in the armed forces,(2) women in combat, (3) women and men co-habitating in the same quarters, (4) associating in servicemen’s clubs where there is the use of alcoholic beverages as a basis for promotion or career evaluation, (5) others.

Our sons filed documents with the Selective Service Administration and the Department of Defense, and sent copies to their elected representatives at federal and state level. These documents state, among other things . . .

That while they are willing to serve in the United States Armed Forces and bear arms in the defence of the country, they will . . .

(1) NOT serve with known sodomites (conscientious objection),

(2) NOT serve with women in combat, as it would violate their deep rooted biblical understanding of how men ought to treat women in all purity and holiness, and firmly believe in a biblicist role for women in the home (conscientious objection),

(3) NOT serve where they must be co-quartered with the opposite sex (conscientious objection).

(4) NOT serve where they are evaluated on the basis of their social concourse when alcoholic beverages are in use, such as in servicemen’s clubs (conscientious objection).

Number (4) above has to do with an incident where I, while serving in the Air Force, was denied graduation from an NCO leadership school because I would not attend a social function where major elements were alcoholic drink and dancing. In the end, my commanders adjudicated that it would not negatively affect my promotion, because my position was deeply rooted in biblicist faith, and they could not deny that it was a genuine conviction. Furthermore, the policies and activities of that particular NCO leadership school were altered as to the graduation requirements. I held my ground, eventually gained my commanders’ respect, and it changed things.

Many who post on Free Republic will disagree to some of our specific objections of conscience (I expect to be flamed by some who defend women serving in combat, and some men wouldn’t mind living in close quarters with women who are not their wives) , and that is because they do not have the same grounding in Biblicist faith. But here, we are making a broader point, whether or not anyone agrees with some specific points of ours.

Our point is that if CHRISTIANS in the armed forces and their families (and those registering for selective service) stand for their faith, and that including areas that touch on morality (sodomy, women in men’s dormitories, etc.), then the sodomite agenda could not advance as we are seeing it advance today. The sodomite agenda, and other forms of moral decay are advancing because Christians are keeping their mouths shut, keeping their pens in their pockets, and their computers only on forum sites. CHRISTIAN people are not using their word processors or printers. They are not delivering any volume of conscientious objection to the Selective Service regime, the Department of Defense, the secretaries of the various armed services, nor to the offices of their elected representatives.

Of course, it is useless to go through the trouble if CHRISTIAN parents have not instructed their Selective Service or volunteer age children in their family’s CHRISTIAN faith, conscience, tradition, morality or heritage. It is a useless exercise if professing CHRISTIAN parents have taken the nation that they will simply raise their children to decide these things according to their own “preferences.”

Mere “preferences” in moral issues will never hold the line against the onslaught of wicked men aided by their father, the devil. CHRISTIAN CONVICTIONS, based upon Biblicist faith and heritage, undergirded by the workings of the Holy Spirit in the life will produce a testimony that can serve to inhibit the forces of evil in our nation, including the sodomites and anti-family forces.

My children love America, but they love Christ more than they love America. My children are willing to risk their lives in defense of our nation (they are all trained in the use of firearms, byt the way), . . .

. . . but when the nation is defended against foreign foes, for whom have we defended it, and for what principles and for what heritage? For the sodomites? For the Log Cabin Republicans? For the people like the members of the National Organization for Women and the National Education Association? For the globalist elites? For the people who will squander our national treasure for the United Nations?

For what principles are our brave servicemen, and yes, serviceWOMEN fighting and many dying for. Did members of our young generation die in Iraq and Afghanistan to preserve the likes of the Obama agenda? REALLY?

DO WE HAVE A CONSCIENCE ANYMORE?!! Do we do anything anymore in the defence of liberty of conscience?

If the military draft is re-instituted, and I suspect it will be sooner or later, my own children will likely be declared unfit to serve in the United States Armed Forces of which I myself am a proud veteran.

But their being thought to be unfit is because they maintain a heritage and morality that was held by our fathers and former generations who also held to the same heritage and morality—a CHRISTIAN heritage and morality.

Where is our army of CHRISTIANS in this hour who will rise up and not be silent about what the Bible says is right and pure and precious?

If the Selective Service regime, the Defense Department, the Pentagon, the Joint Chiefs, and the Commander-in-Chief all were to have a serious understanding from our own conscientious objections that our CHRISTIAN children will not serve with known sodomites (let’s just hold the issues right there for now), the sodomite agenda nor the anti-family agenda of the Obama administration could in NO WAY advance.

DEVELOP CONVICTIONS AND TEACH THEM TO YOUR CHILDREN FROM EARLY CHILDHOOD!


22 posted on 11/18/2010 6:59:16 PM PST by John Leland 1789 (Grateful)
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To: John Leland 1789

Excellent post. Thanks much.


23 posted on 11/18/2010 7:21:14 PM PST by Joya
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To: John Leland 1789
DEVELOP CONVICTIONS AND TEACH THEM TO YOUR CHILDREN FROM EARLY CHILDHOOD!

And you, as their parent....lead by example.

That was an excellent post. I thank you deeply.

24 posted on 11/18/2010 7:26:00 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Here's a thought!! Donate to the website you are on RIGHT NOW!! .... *waves hi to DS*)
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To: John Leland 1789

Thank you so very much for sharing your insights, dear John Leland 1789!


25 posted on 11/18/2010 7:52:05 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: John Leland 1789
We have two sons and a daughter-in-law who served in the military. 2 in the Air Force and 1 in the Navy. They joined after 9/11 and served this country will honor and a great sense of duty. 2 are out now and pursuing careers made possible by the military. I is left and wants to retire from it. Maybe...it's just this kind of vile programs that give my son reason to reconsider his commitment. How can people in D.C. and in the Pentagon be so tone deaf as to not understand what this is doing to the morale of troops? Pray for some common sense to prevail in those in authority. ANd the bravery it takes to stand up against a room full of jello-brains who are committed to creating social science situations. It is disgraceful that this country must deal with this.
27 posted on 11/18/2010 8:58:24 PM PST by smvoice (Defending the Indefensible: The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: John Leland 1789
"Thank You" for your service and dedication to raising your children in the Lord...

the only problem i see in yer post is the assumption that the majority in DC seeks troops like yer children...

those troopers wouldnt be as easy to manipulate for a 'feel good' moment...

29 posted on 11/18/2010 9:27:48 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: John Leland 1789

Would that we had Christian Leaders to gather their troops and publicly just SAY NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


32 posted on 11/18/2010 9:53:46 PM PST by victim soul
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To: John Leland 1789
DEVELOP CONVICTIONS AND TEACH THEM TO YOUR CHILDREN FROM EARLY CHILDHOOD!

Amen! Congratulations on bringing seven Christ-loving, America-loving and freedom-loving people into the world. We need more of them! You're still working on that, right? ;o)

40 posted on 11/18/2010 10:41:39 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: John Leland 1789
This is a most excellent post. Thanks.

But this is infiltrating in all corners of society-not just the military. If you say anything at work you stand a very good chance of being fired or sued. We live in a country where we no longer have free speech regardless of how we keep quoting the Constitution.

Personally, I cannot see how my son could defend a nation where you are not allowed to fire the first shot or shoot back at those who are shooting at you. Worst, our corrupt society now will prosecute our servicemen who dare to punch a terrorist. We use to call these kinds of people “sitting ducks”.

We have gone beyond the tipping point of etiquette. If we do not stand up and start speaking out, the free nation we knew will be a distance memory and the Constitution another scrap of paper.

44 posted on 11/19/2010 1:26:23 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: John Leland 1789

Thank you for speaking out.


49 posted on 11/19/2010 6:30:13 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: John Leland 1789

Amen


55 posted on 11/19/2010 9:25:26 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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To: John Leland 1789

A huge BTTT which everyone should read.


57 posted on 11/19/2010 12:46:54 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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