Ron Paul: Cut out this Soviet-style nonsense

WorldNetDaily ^ | 11/17/2010 | Joe Kovacs

[Irenic]

Thank you, Congressman Paul and Congressman Duncan.

Yes, FReepers, there is some sanity.

[Outlaw Woman]

[HiTech RedNeck]

私のがらくたに触れてはいけない。

[cunning_fish]

“Allow pilots and concealed weapons permit holders to carry their handguns aboard flights, and there will be little worry of any terror indents. 911 wouldn’t have happened if this were the case.”

LOL. Gun on a plane is no better than bomb itself. Planes are made out of thin alu and pressured. If you want to learn an effect of a bullet on an airframe just puncture an inflated baloon.

[gogogodzilla]

Too specific. How about:

No federal employee or agency or any individual or entity that receives federal funds shall be granted immunity to any or all federal laws currently in effect. The preceding sentence shall apply even if the individual or the individual's parent, guardian, or any other individual gives consent.

So if it's a crime for you or me to fondle a stranger, then it's illegal for any federal employee or agency to fondle a stranger.

Likewise for the voyeurism of the new scanning machines.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Weird how the machine translation of Yahoo half-mangles these. The first one comes out like a request to touch (his) junk, the second like a denial to do something vague.

[Impy]

Could you add kisama in there somewhere? ;d

[HiTech RedNeck]

Actual tests with hand gun bullets don’t show any such effect on a pressurized cabin. The cabin would not even lose its pressure from a single hole because the pressurizers are already making up for much more leakage than that.

Fuselage ruptures do occur on occasion, but it’s the result of metal fatigue and corrosion, not catastrophic point events.

[AmericanInTokyo]

Gladly!

貴様！俺の性器を触るな！

[Smokin' Joe]

LOL. Gun on a plane is no better than bomb itself. Planes are made out of thin alu and pressured. If you want to learn an effect of a bullet on an airframe just puncture an inflated baloon.

You're pretty close, despite the hyperbole. I think that the passengers should be issued sheath knives (the Ka-Bar comes to mind), honed to a razor's edge, and then reminded that if anyone takes over the plane, they will probably end up dead.

I think everyone would be courteous and well behaved, or bleeding out in the aisles.

[AAABEST]

This is definitely a record for the most posts on a Ron Paul thread without the Paul-haters hijacking it with asinine comments about shrimp.

I guess there really are some things we can all get behind.

[AmericanInTokyo]

They are both negative imperatives. And for the male, the term used in Japanese is "sexual organs", whereas in the female tense, the more vague (because of the perceivably more embarrassed female), would be in Japanese "down there".

Both verbs are "don't touch it."

Come to think of it, for English phrasebooks for visiting the USA, they might have to put in a section for the Japanese about "Going Through TSA" and put in these various phrases:

俺の性器を触るな！　＝ "Mr. TSA-man, kindly please do not touch my junk."　(Now, everyone repeat after me).

[Smokin' Joe]

Actual tests with hand gun bullets don’t show any such effect on a pressurized cabin. The cabin would not even lose its pressure from a single hole because the pressurizers are already making up for much more leakage than that.

I'd be more worried about clipping an essential electrical cable, tagging a sensor, or 'FOD'ing an engine than blowing the fuselage open with a few shots. Not sure how well those turbines hold up to a few extra grains (135 or so) of metal...

Sure, the odds are relatively long, but when it comes to aviation, 'Murphy' was an optimist.

[AAABEST]

If you want to learn an effect of a bullet on an airframe just puncture an inflated baloon.

Okay, you got your education in physics through one of those emails offering you a college degree.

A bullet hole in a fuselage (or even many bullet holes) would have no tangible effect on cabin pressure or functionality of the bird.

[Gondring]

cunning_fish>>If you want to learn an effect of a bullet on an airframe just puncture an inflated baloon.

HiTech RedNeck >Actual tests with hand gun bullets don’t show any such effect on a pressurized cabin. The cabin would not even lose its pressure from a single hole because the pressurizers are already making up for much more leakage than that.

It seems that someone has taken over HiTech RedNeck's account recently because yet again he's right. ;-)

You can see some of the underwhelming tests on YouTube.

[Gondring]

then reminded that if anyone takes over the plane, they will probably end up dead. ,p> Oh, yeah..that would really stop a suicide attacker or drunk who grabs a hostage.

[KoRn]

"Gun on a plane is no better than bomb itself. Planes are made out of thin alu and pressured. If you want to learn an effect of a bullet on an airframe just puncture an inflated baloon."

Modern airliners have systems that would minimize any effect a bullet would have on the hull, should one pass through it. So I've read anyway.

[AmericanInTokyo]

OK, listen up, товарищ!

Those for "fondling", you go to the left. And those for "photos", you go to the right. торопиться!!

[jd777]

In London 7/7 subways and buses were bombed and in madrid 3/11 Trains were bombed. and they didn’t change any security there. WHY? they killed 100’s. Meanwhile two dud “bombers” - who did nothing- Richard Reid and Umar Abdulmutalleb who had only explosive without any blasting caps - which would never work - forced us to change our security here.

[Smokin' Joe]

You’d have an entire cabin full of people who will assist the ‘suicide’. The grim reality is that not all would survive, just most. Still better than 9/11, and everyone on the plane would have a fighting chance.