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Oct 30 rolled around and I was to fly Phoenix to Charlotte flight 1550 at 1745 EST. We had recieved a company message stating if we refuse the body scanner we WILL recieve the new pat down and we must comply. I knew I was “in for it”. I elected to follow all company procedure and directives and if it was as bad as they stated, I WILL not fly this time. Well, I beeped [in the metal detector], was offered the scanner and opted out instead to endure the pat down. I requested a private screening with the Captain as my witness (you always have the right to a witness ). They started in my shirt collar, went inside my pants waistband all the way around, up inside my crotch and squeesed around from the front each side and up the backside both sides. I was groped 4 times total! Next they rubbed my whole body down with a full palm pressure applied rubdown including my buttocks and the front groin 1 inch either side of my fly. I exited without saying anything, the Capt and myself just hanging our heads in shame. This is a new breed of LOW that I never thought I would allow…EVER.

I arrived at the aircraft and the Capt and I both agreed I was not fit to fly. I was red faced and sweating profusely (every swear word I ever new was being silently mouthed). For the first time, it occured to me that it’s humiliation, not embarrassment, that causes anger. We advised the agents, the company and the union. They were unable to locate a replacement at the time so susequently, the flight cancelled. I followed the letter of the law in every way and yet, I have risked my career, reputation and the well being of people around me who depend on my support.

Rest assured folks, Michael Roberts’s view of this “land grab” of the last of our precious rights is right on. I’ve watched the screening system get progressively worse for 5 years. I estimate I’ve already endured over 700 pat downs. It’s as if they plan some new hideous procedure, try it on us for awhile and if they get away with it, they go further. It HAS to stop here. We own our bodies, not the goverment. It occurs me me that a groping does not reveal a pound of explosive in someone’s rectum. So, if this is how TSA approaches its mission to prevent airplanes from blowing up, has anyone thought what’s next? If we go along with this I can see cavity checks around the next corner. They believe just using ” in the name of safety” makes it so and makes it right. IT DOES NOT!!!!!

Thanks, Howard Pinkham

US Airways First Officer

1 posted on 11/17/2010 3:43:39 PM PST by jessduntno
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To: jessduntno

I’d say that is a hostile work environment.


2 posted on 11/17/2010 3:45:38 PM PST by battlecry
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To: jessduntno

I say we all buy tickets, force our way through the lines refusing the pat downs and that is that.


4 posted on 11/17/2010 3:48:05 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: jessduntno

TSA takes STUPID to a whole new level

Dictionaries all over the World are weeping as they are no longer current

(Lame ... but I had to type something Family Friendly)

TT


5 posted on 11/17/2010 3:48:15 PM PST by TexasTransplant (I don't mind liberals... I hate liars...there just tends to be a high degree of overlap)
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There are a courageous few who won’t bow down in submission. This makes the government-paid nazis very mad.


6 posted on 11/17/2010 3:48:32 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Annoying liberals is my goal. I will not be silenced.)
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I would think that the screener’s accusation that the first officer was a homophobe should be an immediate firing offense for the screener. Somehow I doubt that it was.
7 posted on 11/17/2010 3:49:40 PM PST by Truth29
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It never ceases to amaze me that the person who has control of the airplane has to be searched for possible explosives. Its not like he can’t just fly into the ground or something. I heard they even took away a pilot’s fingernail clippers. What was he going to do, hold it to his throat and make himself crash the plane?


8 posted on 11/17/2010 3:50:08 PM PST by irishtenor (All that I say, all that I do, is predestined.)
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It’s as if they plan some new hideous procedure, try it on us for awhile and if they get away with it, they go further.

I would imagine it's also a form of "conditioning."

9 posted on 11/17/2010 3:51:15 PM PST by Oratam
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Just tell them, “If you grope me, I get to grope you.”


10 posted on 11/17/2010 3:51:27 PM PST by irishtenor (All that I say, all that I do, is predestined.)
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What’s the point of checking the pilot for a bomb or whatever? He can always fly the plane into a building anyway.


11 posted on 11/17/2010 3:51:41 PM PST by mkmensinger
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Remember TSA’s new motto: “You don’t get on, Until we get off.”


12 posted on 11/17/2010 3:52:50 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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"It occurs me me that a groping does not reveal a pound of explosive in someone’s rectum. "

I guess I'd better not eat at Taco Bell before my next flight....

13 posted on 11/17/2010 3:53:29 PM PST by RetroSexual
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“Under 18 U.S. Code Section 2244, “ ‘sexual contact’ means the intentional touching, either directly or through the clothing, of the genitalia, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh or buttocks of any person with an intent to abuse, humiliate, harass, degrade.”


16 posted on 11/17/2010 3:55:53 PM PST by Paladin2
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For the first time, it occurred to me that it’s humiliation, not embarrassment, that causes anger.

Sounds like someone in the administration wants Americans to suffer payback for Abu Ghraib.

22 posted on 11/17/2010 4:00:42 PM PST by stayathomemom (Beware of cat attacks while typing!)
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Wear this:


23 posted on 11/17/2010 4:01:59 PM PST by I see my hands (How's that ballot box working out for you?)
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It’s not a phobia, it’s an actual disgust of a serious perversion that is eating at the core of decent society like a maggot.


24 posted on 11/17/2010 4:03:20 PM PST by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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For the screeners to be able to detect explosives, that means that they must know what a normal groin area feels like. I wonder what it says on the job application:
“Have you felt (your sex) groin areas before? Do you know what a normal (your sex) groin area feels like?”
That kinda excludes the vast majority of people, and opens the job to a small segment of the population, say about 1%.

Or maybe there is on the job training with (same sex) anatomically correct crash dummies.

Madness.


25 posted on 11/17/2010 4:03:37 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Annoying liberals is my goal. I will not be silenced.)
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To: jessduntno

There’s a simple solution to this.

Just make it an option for the man being searched to select a very attractive female to do the pat down!

It would help the economy also. Guys would be flying all over the place.


26 posted on 11/17/2010 4:03:50 PM PST by precisionshootist
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This is what happens when we let idiots control our government.


28 posted on 11/17/2010 4:04:37 PM PST by 386wt
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Simply go to local Law Enforcement and file a formal sexual assualt complaint everytime this happens. Once TSA agents are constantly under investigation/possible arrest and prosecution under local and state law; who’ll want to work for TSA?


29 posted on 11/17/2010 4:05:30 PM PST by JohnKinAK
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I think I will just start laughing and when they ask, “What’s so funny?”, I’ll just say, “I’m just thinking of the laughs I’ll get when I tell the guys how easy it is to get TSA agents to play with my junk.”

TSA: Are you calling me a homosexual.
Passenger: No, but I’m not the one with my junk in his hands. By the way, am I supposed to leave a tip?

They cannot humiliate you if you humiliate them first.


30 posted on 11/17/2010 4:08:32 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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