Posted on 11/17/2010 3:27:24 PM PST by Nachum
Janine Zacharia, the Washington Post's Jerusalem correspondent, spins a fanciful, sky-is-falling doomsday scenario for Israel: if you don't hurry up and bend over backwards to get a peace deal with Mahmoud Abbas on almost any terms, then get ready for a Hamas takeover of the West Bank and a third intifada that will rock the Jewish state to its foundations. ("Warnings in Israel of need for peace deal -- West Bank Crisis Feared -- Some in military foresee Hamas rise to power" Nov. 17, page A8).
Zacharia attributes her dire warning to a couple of unidentified senior Israeli military and intelligence officials:
"If a peace deal isn't achieved soon, the moderate Palestinian leadership in the West Bank could collapse and give way to radical Hamas militants, backed by Iran and Iraq, who already rule the Gaza Strip."
This is, of course, an old refrain from leftist, peace-at-any-price mavens, who will say anything and do anything to appease Abbas, lest this so-called "moderate" gets toppled from his Palestinian leadership perch in Ramallah. Except Zacharia peddles this notion under the guise of a news article, ignoring the radical side of Abbas, who keeps glorifying terrorists and calling for Israel's total disappearance, while refusing to enter serious, direct talks with Israel under U.S. auspices.
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You mean George Soros?
They’ll be fine. They will have to construct a South Africa type apartheid because of the growing Arab population.....strip them of the right to vote.....take them off their land....move them to more “secure” areas. They’ll take a lot of international heat but they already do.
In the immortal words of General McAuliffe - NUTS.
Intifadas wouldn't last long if I were in charge.
ML/NJ
The loser if Hamas takes over Judea and Samaria will be the Arabs. We just go back to 1992 and impose our own security. Actually the program before Oslo was more likely to lead to progress than what’s been done since. The idea was to grow local leaders, preferably through democracy, and when they reached political maturity they would gradually take over in some form of autonomy. The scheme in Oslo was to parachute a foreign terrorist organization into the territories, let their gangsters take over and what that brought was a decade of horrendous corruption and oppression of the locals under Arafat, which led to Hamas running and winning an election on an anti-corruption program and the rest is what we have now. And before Arafat croaked, he did what terrorist organizations do, launch a reign of terror. His idea was to stir up the Muslim world for a large invasion of Israel, but Osama did not get the memo and attacked New York instead of Tel Aviv and everyone beat a fast retreat from Arafat. Beyond that any half-baked peace treaty will not insure Israel’s survival; that can only be achieved in the near run by preventing Iran from going nuclear.
“the moderate Palestinian leadership in the West Bank”
I would say “you can’t make this stuff up”, but apparently they can.
That’s right ML/MJ. It would be killing time if you were in charge. Right?
If they do Israel will be forced to expel everyone who is not an Israeli citizen.
And send them back to Jordan and Lebanon and Syria.
Total takeover.
Israel will NEVER surrender Jerusalem...you will have to kill not only the Jewish state but all the Jews living in it to accomplish that.
People are going to have to read Ezek 38-39 to see what happens to anyone attacking Israel. It ain’t pretty.
Only if attacked. I guess you think that's unreasonable. But yes, once attacked there would be many close to the attackers who would be killed.
ML/NJ
Consider the source. Thanks Nachum.
I think your right. Killing in the Middle East is the local favorite pastime. Always has been. Why not join in and get your hands dirty?
Actually killing is only a favorite pastime for the majority. For a very small minority it is sometimes necessary so as not to be killed. And in case you haven't noticed this majority doesn't limit their pleasure to the Middle East. Wherever they are they kill. Their book tells them they should kill; and they do. Check out The Moslem Conquest of India, for example.
ML/NJ
Read the Old Testament.
Is that the best you can do?
The Bible is nice. But no one has actually lived by it for a 2000 years or more. When was the last time you heard about a Jew stoning a woman to death for adultery? The last time you heard about a Koran follower doing it was last week. The Bible doesn't actually have a "Smite them at the necks," line but you can find videos of more than a few Koran followers doing just that and rather seeming to enjoy it.
When they come to smite you at your neck, what are you going to do, ask them to sing Kumbayah?
Or are you one of them?
ML/NJ
Ultimately hand over Gaza to Egypt (it was Egyptian territory originally), and make Egypt responsible for shutting down the rocket and mortar attacks, considering any attack from Gaza to be an act of war on the part of Egypt against Israel.
Nice points - plenty there to think about.
Almost no journalist has the ability, courage or gumption to report in depth on the fissures within Palestinian society.
The issues of Hamas vs Fatah, the issues of land division, and the issues of refugees are all used to bludgeon Israel without any thought to the real world consequences of the demands.
For example, what if 1 million so called “refugees” were to return, how many people think they will fit in the Gaza strip? There is no room there of course. How many people think they should move to the West Bank? Almost no Palestinians in the West Bank want to disrupt the lifestyle they have by placing 1 million new people, many radicalized, most undereducated and with no assets, few skills and no jobs to give them. Of course Israel isn’t going to take them.. so why don’t both sides work towards a solution that benefits both sides? Because the Palestinians still use it as a weapon even though it threatens to backfire if peace is ever agreed to.
Take it one step further yet - the people of the West Bank are a lot closer to middle class than the people of Gaza. While the Palestinians claim they want a congruous state, the people of the West Bank likely do not want freedom of movement for Gazans. Like refugees from Lebanon, they couldn’t possible house them, educate them, give them jobs.
I doubt that the West Bank is on the verge of becoming radicalized. While almost no Gazans are employed in Israel, hundreds of thousands of West Bankers earn their living from Israel either by trade, by employment, etc. Sure there are radicals, but I highly doubt it is close to becoming Gaza.
And then you see yet another reason why peace is so elusive. The Palestinians are not unified. Gazans do not share goals with West Bankers. They cannot resolve these fundamental differences and it is better for them to kick the can down the road than to make peace and suddenly have to work internally to solve these class/socio-economic issues.
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