Your Government In Action, The TSA And The 4th Amendment

http://radioviceonline.com/ ^ | November 17, 2010 | Dave In EH

[CitizenUSA]

I think you summed it up nicely, and I could care less what Sean Hannity thinks about anything. His opinion doesn’t count more than yours, mine, or any other citizen. He’s a pundit, and not a very smart one either.

As you wrote, they (the government) KNOW they are violating the 4th Amendment. They don’t care. It’s not like they follow it for anything else, other than the right to sodomy and child sacrifice, aka abortion.

No citizen, not Hannity or anyone else, has the right to ignore OUR constitutional protections. If they don’t like the 4th Amendment, then they can pass an amendment. Otherwise, I OPT OUT!

[Defiant]

They say it’s not a violation of our rights because flying is a privilege. So is driving. So is a hundred other things you have to do to live.

That is the other shoe that is yet to drop. The fact is, the government takes the position that you give up certain rights in order to use its roadways. That's why you have to show ID, and be licensed, and comply with their other rules if you want to travel anywhere in this day and age. Compare that to a traveller in the 1800s, who got in his wagon and went on a trail, like the Oregon Trail, and went wherever he wanted however he wanted. There were negligence laws in those days, but they were privately enforced. The auto gave the state a huge inroad into our freedom of travel.

The only reason that they don't strip search us in order to drive on the freeway is that they haven't thought of it yet. It's coming.

[bvw]

Yes. It wasn’t inefficient for blacks to ride on the back of the bus. It was an insufferable indignity, as are these indecent touching searches and the naked scanners.

[Defiant]

Flying, for those who have purchased a ticket, is a right.

A ticket is a contract between passenger and carrier that allows carrier to take passenger through Government's airport and controlled airspace. As between passenger and carrier, a ticket is a license, not a right. As between passenger and Government, it is considered by Government a privilege.

Point is, legally, a ticket is not a right that forces the government to do anything.

[Frabjous]

Rights? What Rights? Oh, you mean those things called ‘Amendments’ that have been slipping away from us for years now?

Big Business thinks THEY are God, since they call the shots, and do their best to not let their secret out (IGNORE THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!!!). We are just the little rodents who make the hamster wheel turn.

[Jack Hydrazine]

http://www.zug.com/live?func=view_thread&thread_id=68619

Shakes on a Plane

(excerpt)
“My question was this: are the security checks really any more effective? To find out, I decided to re-enact the classic scene from the 1984 movie This is Spinal Tap, where bassist Derek Smalls puts a foil-lined cucumber down his pants, which is picked up by the security wand. Only I decided to go one better, by putting a buzzing vibrator down my pants.”

“You know I was sweating cheeseburgers as I waited for the guy to return. We stood there awkwardly, while my crotch hummed a one-note tune. It was a muffled drone, like someone using a weed wacker in a neighboring township.”

http://www.zug.com/live/74827/Undressing-at-Airport-Security.html

Salad Dressing In The Pants

“Calmly, I reached down into that unstable barrel of atomic liquid and grabbed my salad dressing. Then I calmly boarded the moving walkway, and stuffed the salad dressing down my pants. The TSA lets you keep things there, apparently.”