Your Government In Action, The TSA And The 4th Amendment

http://radioviceonline.com/ ^ | November 17, 2010 | Dave In EH

[Biggirl]

Full Title:

"Your Government In Action, The TSA And The 4th Amendment – UPDATE: Video Added UPDATE 2: Media Person Opts Out, Gets The “Once Over”

Had to shorten title.

[stockpirate]

Nothing wrong here because I heard Sean say he flys all the time and it’s no big deal.

[Uncle Miltie]

“Nobody wants to have their 4th Amendment Rights violated, but we’re going to have to do it.”

Nice.

[Luke21]

Yeah, that brilliant Hannity clown who yesterday compared fascist strip searches to a man’s wife seeing him naked. He’s a real genius.

[Luke21]

So fourth amendment rights are abridged by the government any time they feel like it.

[SandRat]

Sean is turning into another Joe Scarborugho or how ever you pell his name.

[Lady Jag]

Whole body scanners have nothing to do with airport security.

First they’re about money.

Second they’re about demoralizing us.

Third they’re about information gathering.

Welcome to white slavery.

[Sergio]

TSA bookmark. (see links)

[DManA]

They say it’s not a violation of our rights because flying is a privilege.

So is driving. So is a hundred other things you have to do to live. You don’t have to suspend our rights to take them away. Just turn our world into an array of privileges.

If we want to live in a cave and eat berries, well that’s our right. (but not if we do it on public land. Then it’s a privilege).

[combat_boots]

Haven’t you heard the story of the model who was patted down for 8 minutes?

Sean I would guess doesn’t have so much to grope for guys. Well, most guys.

[I see my hands]

Wear this:

[Luke21]

I thought we had rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. The government thinks they are God.

[apocalypto]

Maybe not, But here I disagree with him strongly. IT is a shocking invasion of privacy, and there are alternatives. However, Isn't Michael Chertoff a lobbyist for the body scanners and making big bucks off this?

[sdcraigo]

The way TSA is “handling” things, I think they should be referred to as T&A, which, as some of you might know, refers to two parts of the female anatomy.

[SandRat]

I do belive so, along with BIG Sis backed by Soros

[stockpirate]

Well you know Sean thinks Newt is a conservative. So that says a lot about him.

[Tzfat]

They say it’s not a violation of our rights because flying is a privilege.

Wrong. Driving is a privilege, but exercising a legal contract with a common carrier is a constitutional right. Period. Flying, for those who have purchased a ticket, is a right.

[668 - Neighbor of the Beast]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z01dJy9lf4w

Here’s Hannity discussing the issue with Michelle Malkin. I’m really surprised and dismayed that both of them are more concerned with (false) security than with privacy and protection from intrusive and unreasonable search.

This issue certainly separates the wheat from the chaff. Hero pilot Sullenberger too has objected to the searches on the grounds of inefficient use of resources. As I mentioned elsewhere, “inefficient” should be for things morally neutral. You use that word, you sound morally neutral.

These humiliating searches are immoral. They constitute sexual assault. Period.

Yet here’s Michelle Malkin saying “It’s not the privacy concerns that bother me so much, Sean, as it is the fundamental issues of trust and competence...The question here domestically comes down to, do you trust the TSA to administer this policy in an effective manner?”

Bulletin. I don’t WANT them to be efficient or effective at violating my rights — or anyone’s, or everyone’s.

I expected better from Malkin. Hannity...disappointing but not so much of a surprise. :(

[beezdotcom]

Flying, for those who have purchased a ticket, is a right.

Subject to the security terms agreed upon between the carrier and the passenger, as specified in the ticket contract. However, buying the ticket does not mean you consent to their security procedures - it just means that you agree that you won't be flying without going through them.

My biggest problem is that if you observe the procedures, think they are too obtrusive, and decide to walk out and not fly, they can arrest you. THAT seems to FAR exceed the terms of the contract.

[CORedneck]

Turning our rights in privileges, the primrose path towards enslavement !

I remember my last job, my manager told me that when and how I took vacation was a privilege. I had to get permission to take the time off, had to leave contact information to the point of day by day - where I am at and phone numbers. Oh, had to get approval to leave town ! I resisted of course ! He is a liberal democrat !