Posted on 11/16/2010 7:11:19 PM PST by paul in cape
Nothing else.
I don't care what the judges gave them. This show’s outcome is based on judges scores and the viewers votes.
“"How do you spin that to reveal Bristol is the one who deserved to stay?"”
No spinning here. Just the facts.
I (not the judges, not you) thought Bristol danced very well last night. Well enough that I picked up my phone and voted for her and not Brandy. My husband did the same.
Obviously others did the same.
Man, get over it. I and others don't have the same opinion as you. You liked Brandy......I liked Bristol.
So what.
I didn't say you were unfair. I meant to say you are being controlling and ridiculous.
There are many message boards with posters that are freaking out as much as you are about Bristol staying on. Go there and preach.
I have my own opinion and your freak-out posts won't change it.
The longer the post the greater the degree of PDS!
You pretty much summed it up.
“Confession time... I could be poster boy for what you’re complaining about. I don’t watch the show. I’ve never even seen Bristol Palin dance... not once. For me, this absolutely IS left vs. right. My votes are my small way of contributing to the annoyance and aggravation of all the Palin-haters out there. Am I worried that I’m spoiling the integrity of your little dance program? No, I couldn’t care less. If I can do my part and contribute to the unhappiness and demoralization of the left, then mission accomplished. “
But that’s not really fair to the other contestants. We’re supposed to be about merit instead of affirmative action but if the more talented black lady was voted off because her mother wasn’t Palin...I think that sends a very bad message to a lot of people.
Ok, I have watched every season and nearly every episode of Dancing with the Stars. I enjoy it, and I watch it with my son, my mom and my grandmother. If you are a hard-core fan, back in season 5, Mark Ballas and Sabrina Bryan did a dance and scored a perfect 30. On the results show, the announced the bottom 2. When they said “Marie Osmand, you are NOT in the bottom 2, Marie nearly fell over. The judges were asked what they thought. Len was stunned, and Bruno said flat out “This is madness! There is no way these 2 couples should be in the bottom 2, Sabrina is the best dancer this season!” The other couple in the bottom 2, Cameron and Edyta were certain they were going home. Cameron had even put his arm around edyta in a consoling way. When they announced Sabrina had been voted off, everyone was stunned. It’s on Youtube if you’d like to see it.
The point is that I don’t think it was a shot at Bristol, every time there is an elimination that could be considered surprising, they re-iterate if you don’t vote, don’t complain.
hahahahaha
This is getting ridiculous. It’s a reality show for crying out loud.
Whether or not Bristol is the best dancer, most improved or deserves to be there is subjective.
DWTS used Bristol as a draw for ratings. They’ve had the highest ratings the show has ever had and it is because of Bristol.
In the past I’ve watched as fans kept on dancers that may not have been the most talented but they liked the most for whatever reason. Her dad was a rock star or she was in rehab a zillion times for example.
The show allows for multiple voting. On phones and online. If it wasn’t partially a popularity contest they wouldn’t have fans vote and they’d only allow one vote. The show makes this clear consistently and reminds people to vote, vote vote!
The people who put up the tent shouldn’t complain about the size of the circus.
It’s amazing to me the amount of shenanigans people will ignore at the polls and yet have hissy fits over votes on a reality tv show. Good grief! Whether or not Palin wins this dance show isn’t going to affect my life one iota. My taxes won’t go up and it won’t interfere with my quality of healthcare. IT’S A TV SHOW!
You're not proving that Sarah can be elected president. All you're doing is proving that Palin supporters will act unreasonably if they have to, in order to get their favorite politician's daughter a win on a program she simply isn't good enough to win on her own. Please give more thought to what you are doing.
Oh, D1, I do so admire your courage and perseverance in attempting to calmly debate on this and other threads.
I have long since ceased trying, or, frankly, caring. It genuinely sickens me to see the time devoted to DWTS, when we couldn’t seem to mobilize enough energy to get rid of Sens. McCain, Boxer, Reid, or even Reps. John Dingell or Barney Frank.
But, hey, by voting five times on your fax phone, you, too, can help propel a marginally talented (and very exploited) teen on to "victory."
PS: I'm guessing that this would be neither the time nor the place to list the top 10 songs (replete with song parodies) that I think Bristol should dance to next time. Right. Didn't think so...
:) Have a good day, D1 and all!
What?? This is probably the most important show of the decade for this country. Are you saying Obama's kids can dance better than Sarah's? Or Romney's? Whose side are you on? You are letting your Palin hatred get in the way of your sense. 'Bristol-Bristol', LOL :)
When, my side, people I associate with and support, do something that may be allowed by the rules but is tacky or even dishonorable in a larger sense I think I have a right to tell them so. I have a vested interest in my side being the good guys.
You claim to be voting for Bristol because she's beautiful, has guts and has improved. Fine. But that tells me you know she is not the best dancer. So you must have voted against someone you know is a better dancer. I think that's fine at the beginning of the season. But there is a certain unstated ethic regarding these programs that somewhere, somehow, by the time we are in the finals the best dancers should be competing.
It's no different than a thousand other things we are allowed to do but that embarrass those around us. Based on all your responses I feel as if I've caught you emptying the candy dish into your pockets and the best response you have is to tell me to mind my own business. Get it?
Bwahahahaha.
Thank you for your well-thought-out-posts. It's mighty lonely out here.
In fact, it could be argued that Bristol isn't a "star" in the sense some of the others are. The program is really "Dancing with the Celebrities."
There is no rule that you have to vote for the “best” dancer. Besides, “best” means different things to different people.
I am proud of Bristol, and yes I think she is more deserving of winning than the others who are professionals who have spent a lifetime getting paid, and perfecting their ‘art.’ I had more respect for contestants like Mark Warner, Rick Fox and ‘the Situation’ who also lacked professional dancing backgrounds.
IMHO this is definitely a contest of the one not only most improved, but at the greatest disadvantage who rose to the challenge - and the winner is Bristol.
Looooooong self-rightous posts lecturing to the point of exploding heads!
All so concerned that a pols kid gets votes on a TV dance show? lol
I guess we do owe a debt of thanks to Sarah Palin and GWB....we now know exactly where people stand..in left and right media, in the political class, and even on FR.
I love Sarah Palin and I've been an active conservative or libertarian since 1970. Because of that I knew about Sarah before 90% of you ever heard her name and I considered her nomination to be a tipping point that might turn the tide on socialism in this country. So, to be blunt, you are full of crap.
I find it very disturbing that you are willing to categorize people as the enemy just because they think fairness compels them to vote for the best dancer in an dance contest. And you mock our concerns because they are about a petty TV show but, somehow, you throwing a monkey wrench into the show is something to be celebrated. Your actions are not petty I guess.
This isn't about being self-righteous. It's about doing what is right and fair. Politicizing a dance TV show so you can make some point that not even you can articulate isn't right or fair to the participants or the long-time audience.
And how your mission helps Sarah Palin or shows support for her eludes me. All you've done is prove you believe in promoting people who don't deserve it for your own ulterior motives. That's no different than the boss at work doing it even if the TV show is petty compared to the workplace. It's the principle involved that, until now, I though was a fundamental belief of conservatives - merit matters.
It makes me wonder if you even know what Sarah Palin stands for or do you support her, too, just because it makes the libs heads explode? Is everything a popularity contest or does substance ever matter?
You must be embarrassed about all that or you would have something to say that was better than accusing us of being RINOs or libs.
I've said many times that no one is accusing anyone about breaking the rules.
My brother had a teacher in elementary school who believed grades should not be based on who did best but on who did well compared to their ability. So she compared the test scores to the IQ scores and gave kids who should have received C grades As and she gave kids who should have gotten A grades Cs because they were doing what was expected. She wasn't breaking any rules either.
So I think I understand your view. I just don't agree with it just as I didn't agree with my brother's teacher.
If people voted for Bristol, sincerely, because she improved or because she was the best dancer then fine. If they voted for her to disrupt the show because they thought that, somehow, that was striking a blow for freedom and a Constitutional Republic then that seems a lot wackier than anything I have said.
I'm just wondering why you are judging as to what is "right" and "fair" regarding this dance contest. I would say that's quite self-righteous. Why is Bristol even on the show if it's wrong to vote for her? We vote based on who we want to win. The host tells the audience "if you want [Bristol/Brandy/etc.] to stay, make sure you vote." Not "you may not vote for Bristol, just the others." It's not your place to demand to others as to what is right and fair regarding DWTS. If you want it to really be fair, all the "stars" should be equal in their experience and ability, instead of having some with professional dance experience and others with no experience at all. Now that's neither right nor fair.
I keep explaining over and over again that I understand the rules but I believe there is a higher ethic than making this a pure popularity contest. What would be the point if the "American Idol" was consistently a terrible singer year after year even if he was popular with his fraternity?
People keep bringing up how the other dancers are professionals. That's false, in fact. They are "stars" in that they are in the entertainment industry but that doesn't make them trained ballroom dancers. An "amateur" could easily have as much experience as some of the entertainers if she grew up taking ballet or tap or performing in school plays. Even some of the athletes do very well thanks to training that has nothing to do with dance.
But just as there is no rule that says you have to vote for the best dancer there is no rule that says you have to vote for the most disadvantaged.
You feel entitled to vote for whatever reason you choose and that's fine. I feel entitled to comment on the reason. If someone won this competition because a bunch of their frat brothers voted for them over people who performed better that would be their right but I would disapprove. If a bunch of "Jackass" fans voted Steve-O into the finals because it would be a hoot "Har Har Har" I would disapprove. But then I'd be called petty and self-righteous "Cuz Steve-O is so, like, cool, Har Har pass the beer". But that didn't happen because Steve-O's fans new when to quit before they embarrassed themselves.
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe everyone who voted for Bristol sincerely thought she deserved to be promoted. That's not the impression I got from the tone of this thread. And I know there is a different point of view. The difference is that my point of view isn't permitted here. I've been told I'm self-righteous, petty and I've been told to just "shut up" by people who claim the right to promote on other than merit. That is their right. However, I'm embarrassed by their values. Is this what I can expect when our side dominates the culture?
(more evidence PDSers have lost their minds, maybe this guy should have logged on to FR and vented...a looooong post could have saved his TV!)
Man Shoots TV Over Bristol Palin Dancing
NOVEMBER 17—Like most Americans, Steven Cowan has been perplexed by Bristol Palin’s curious ability to keep advancing in TV’s “Dancing with the Stars” competition.
However, unlike other viewers, Cowan, 66, allegedly became so enraged by Palin’s success that he actually fired a shotgun round into his television, triggering a 15-hour standoff with Wisconsin cops.
According to a criminal complaint, Cowan’s wife called cops Monday evening to report that her husband had blasted the TV and was threatening to kill himself. Cowan, who had been drinking, became angry while watching Palin, 20, perform on the ABC program.
As Palin, pictured at left, was dancing, Cowan “jumped up and swore, saying something to the effect of, ‘The fucking politics.’ Steven was upset that a political figure’s daughter was dancing on this particular show when Steven did not think that she was a good dancer,” the complaint notes. Cowan is pictured in the above mug shot.
Janice Cowan told Dane County Sheriff’s Office deputies that she called 911 after her husband blasted the TV and then pointed the shotgun at her. She added that Cowan warned her that he would kill himself if she brought anyone back to their home in the town of Vermont.
After a lengthy standoff with cops, Cowan surrendered yesterday at 11 AM. He is facing disorderly conduct and weapons charges.
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