[Neil E. Wright]

Just a heads up to anyone who owns a pistol-grip "shotgun".

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[LukeL]

My local gunshop says they have to run them as a handgun. I also wonder what the ATF says about the 410/45 revolvers.

[Frank_2001]

Let’s call them “muskets”. That way they’ll be protected by the Second Amendment/s

[jessduntno]

“An October 27, 2010, letter from the Firearms Technology Branch ruled that such a firearm, with a 17” barrel...”

Don’t barrels need to be 18” to be OK? Is it the grip or the combination of length and grip. And, no, this is NOT an invitation to a thousand length and grip jokes ...

[The Cajun]

Well that's just great, rotten bastards.
I'm also pi$$ed that I can't put a temporary shoulder stock on my .44 Redhawk. Think that would be great sport in the way of long range (>200 yards) target practice.

[scott7278]

How about we outlaw the ATF?

[The KG9 Kid]

ATF letters are just opinion letters, whether viewed positively or negatively to the recipient. They’re not rulings. They’re just the notion of whatever junior G-man was opening the mail that day combined with the offhand recollection of whoever was passing by in the hallway for another cup of Yuban.

I am also aware of Mike Vanderbogh’s angles in trying to finagle our way into getting the NFRTR reopened, but he’s become more than a bit of a pain in the ass on some other gun boards I frequent. Whenever I see a link to the Sipsey Street Irregulars, I think “Oh, not this guy and his dubious ideas again...” right before they shitcan his posts.

[RC one]

And yet another government agency that receives too much funding volunteers to have its budget cut. Let’s see we have the IRS volunteering, the EPA, and now BATF. We’ll have the budget balanced real soon at this rate.

[Lancey Howard]

Here's a "pistol grip shotgun":

[arthurus]

So I guess total gun control can come when the ATF defines hand guns and long guns and knives etc as not arms.

[TigersEye]

Not so fast. If the pistol grip firearms are not “shotguns,” what are they?

If someone wants to come over and argue it with me I'll gladly use mine like a baseball bat and beat them senseless with it so that they can leave feeling satisfied that they're right about it not being a shotgun. Is that helpful?

[FlyVet]

And then there’s the Rossi Ranch Hand, which looks a lot like a sawed-off, lever-action rifle, but qualifies as a pistol under their ridiculous rules. I haven’t figured that one out yet, but thought about buying one, just for spite. But I suppose there will be upcoming rules against it.