Posted on 11/14/2010 5:27:33 PM PST by Dallas59
SAN DIEGO — John Tyner won't be pheasant hunting in South Dakota with his father-in-law any time soon.
Tyner was simultaneously thrown out of San Diego International Airport on Saturday morning for refusing to submit to a security check and threatened with a civil suit and $10,000 fine if he left.
And he got the whole thing on his cell phone. Well, the audio at least.
The 31-year-old Oceanside software programmer was supposed to leave from Lindbergh Field on Saturday morning and until a TSA agent directed him toward one of the recently installed full-body scanners, Tyner seemed to be on his way.
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“The have the right to regulate almost any private enterprise.”
THE HELL they do!
We have the right to terminate their employment.
Line up a half a million people in front of the capital
screaming ENOUGH and see how long this continues.
GROW a pair and stop licking theirs.
Your mandatory health insurance policy...
If it’s not the TSA feeling up your croch, it is HHS peeping at us through our private medical records and imposing themselves on us in the doctors visit.
I guess I am a bad new socialist person.
>>It’s called the Fourth Amendment — start ASSERTING it. <<
Not applicable against the regulatory agency overseeing a private enterprise.
The only RIGHTS issue here is to have everyone treated the same. If muslim women get a pass below the neck, so do you and I.
Where are the health physics studies on the back-scatter x-rays and the terahertz today? They are, I suspect, the same place we were during the Manhattan Project, that is just guesses with few real data points. But unlike the Manhattan Project where very few were subjected to these novel forms of radiation, we are here exposing the whole damn country.
That’s dangerous.
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>>THE HELL they do!<<
Oh — no need for the FDA, FAA, etc? No need to check for food quality?
You ever READ the USC? The power to regulate commerce is explicit.
>>GROW a pair and stop licking theirs.<<
Quit wasting people’s time on the same stupid liberal plaintive whine of “it is MY RIGHT” when it isn’t by any definition except yours.
The one thing that waters down the defense of REAL rights is people who think and say every inconvenience is a violation of some misapplied Right (in this case a complete misunderstanding an application of the 4th as well as a complete misunderstanding of the rest of the USC and the powers it confers to the legislative and executing Branches).
“Executing”=”Executive”
I clearly grow weary of educating people...
FR post on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:34:23 PM by Nachum
It’s been a long time since the Oak Ridge mouse (and other mammal) experiments. I agree with your concerns.
The BIER reports are based on old data, but they do seem to converge on 1% “excess cancers” above noise for every 10 REM whole-body exposure.
We will NEVER have the data, except by syndromic monitoring. We expose lots of people to the soft xray from CRT’s, for instance, and hope that nothing statistically significant comes up.
My original point, put in energy terms, reads like this: you get exposure to more energy on the actual flight than you get from the scanner, by a factor of hundreds to one.
The scanner dose, or energy, is less than or equal to natural background in most places (20 uR here according to a Ludlum scintillator).
What law would that be fruitcake?
With all of your self-proclaimed brilliance, you are unable to see the irony.
LOL at you.
Oops, I missed this one.
Yup, most of our data comes from Germany 1939-1945 (shudder), Manhattan, the Japanese bombings, and animal studies at HPRR at Oak Ridge. Maybe a bit more from RHIC Livermore on space radiation.
Not likely there will be more.
Terahertz, I think ADL did some microwave-millimeter wave-terahertz studies in the 70’s, using warehouses full of mice. Nothing conclusive was found, at least no clear hazard.
We are incapable of conducting meaningful studies on these issues now, I think. The data we have is the data we use.
I work a bit with THz, what amazes me is that it’s so close to light that lens structures are effective as antennas are. Not glass, naturally, but lenses and Fresnel plates can be used. With microwave, these structures would be huge.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
Buy a copy of the USC and then buy a clue.
get lost
/VI
You just gave me a GREAT idea (I don’t know if I will do it, but if I have enough drinks and the right raw materials before going through security...)
Would it not be HILARIOUS of I was to make a vest and a codpiece from aluminum foil under my shirt and pants and then go through the PornoVision?
I could then yell “Your X-rays ain’t gonna get ME!!””
(OK, I probably won’t but it is a funny scenario).
Maybe we should have a day where we protest this publicly at airports, if the current media noise level doesn’t do the job. I’d be willing to purchase a ticket and go to the airport and protest the 4th Amendment at security if it comes to that.
Shoot. I bet he can drive from San Diego to South Dakota in 3 days.
And if we don't, Where does it end?
First the airports......
Then where?
People are missing the point.
How does foreign Muslim terrorists equate to strip searching
grandma?
Simple.
Because it is not being done to stop terrorism but to set precedence.
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