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McCain: Go slow on ending military gay ban
UPI ^ | 2010-11-14

Posted on 11/14/2010 12:30:00 PM PST by rabscuttle385

WASHINGTON, Nov. 14 (UPI) -- Sen. John McCain said Sunday he opposes an immediate move to lift the U.S. military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy.

Asked on NBC's "Meet the Press" whether he would block a vote in the lame-duck Congress on repealing the ban on gays and lesbians serving openly, McCain, R-Ariz., said, "I want a thorough and complete study of the effect on morale and battle effectiveness."

"Once we get this study," he said, "we need to have hearings and we need to examine it and we need to look at whether it's the kind of study that we wanted. It isn't, in my view, because I want a study to determine the effects of the repeal on battle effectiveness and morale. What this study is designed to do is to find out how the repeal could be implemented."

He said an Army master sergeant in Afghanistan had told him, "'Senator McCain, we live, eat, sleep and fight together in close proximity. I'm concerned about the repeal.' I would like to know more about it. That's the view that I got from chief petty officers and sergeants all over Afghanistan."


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; US: Arizona; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: fdrq; homosexualagenda; mcbama; mccain; mccain4dadt; mccainantigop; mccaintruthfile; mcqueeg; rino
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To: convertedtoreason

Yours is the rudest and most misguided post I have ever seen on FR.


41 posted on 11/15/2010 12:03:23 AM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: rabscuttle385

People here are sometimes “too” thick!

DOES ANYONE HERE REALLY KNOW THE MEANING OF DADT?

DADT means that “serving the military” has NOTHING TO DO WITH GENDER ... SOLDIERS ENTER MILITARY SERVICE TO “SACRIFICE”, MEN AND WOMEN. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER YOU ARE GAY OR STRAIGHT!

The way you are all behaving indicates that you view DADT as DETERRENT to gay people to enter into service, WHICH IS A FAT OUT LIE!

GAYS AND STRAIGHT (male and female) HAVE ALL THE RIGHTS TO SERVE IN THE MILITARY. NO ONE SHOULD COMPEL THEM TO TELL WHETHER THEY ARE GAY OR NOT ... SIMPLY BECAUSE THE SERVICE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THEIR SEXUAL LEANING!

MILITARY SERVICE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH “SOLDIER MAKING OUT WITH ANOTHER SOLIDER”. Anyone doing that (gay or straight act) SHOULD BE PUNISHED especially during service!

Now, don’t start up with something that gay male or female might take advantage or even rape their fellow soldiers. That’s bull!

TO SENATOR MCCAIN: ONCE AND FOR ALL ... MAKE A STAND! WHAT IS YOUR REAL POSITION ON THIS ISSUE? AND PLEASE... MR. McCain. STOP EMBARASSING SARAH PALIN!


42 posted on 11/15/2010 12:12:47 AM PST by convertedtoreason ( Nature tells us to take a LIBERTARIAN CONSERVATIVE stance.)
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To: rabscuttle385

If McCain can temporize this issue until the new Congress, then more power to him. Surely it has been noticed that it would not be sufficient for the “open homo” crowd to drop the DADT parts of the US military code, because that would only make policy fall back on the older “no homos at all” policy. Something else specific has to take its place and NOTHING has been said about that something else specific. This is a fact that even John McCain, RINO that he is, can and will make hay about.

If committed homos really do want to serve, they are going to have to realize that being a GI means they aren’t supposed to be thinking with the wrong head. If they were serious about wanting to do it “right” instead of blindly rushing into it a la Bummercare, they ought to be asking to show their stuff in “black sheep squadrons” comprising solely homos and explicit don’t-cares. Then if the issue is nothing more fundamental than the uneasy race relations of the early 20th century, the “gay guns” will show a stellar performance. But one thing this is not is a valid civil rights issue. Being a GI means severely curtailed civil rights for the sake of national survival. The Constitution isn’t a suicide pact.


43 posted on 11/15/2010 12:14:22 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: rabscuttle385

Placemark.


44 posted on 11/15/2010 12:15:02 AM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: convertedtoreason

People who are mentally ill should not be permitted to serve in the military.

Homosexuality is a mental illness.

DADT should be repealed and go back to ask ‘em, if the answer is wrong, show ‘em the door.

And if they’re caught once in the service, at the very least a dishonorable discharge.


45 posted on 11/15/2010 12:17:28 AM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: Venturer

It’s not working very well. People are afraid to ask even when the homosexual is causing trouble.

No homosexuals should be in the military.


46 posted on 11/15/2010 12:18:34 AM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: RC Clayton

Troll. BS.

Stop lying.


47 posted on 11/15/2010 12:20:44 AM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: RC Clayton; Jim Robinson

More BS. Two people (at least) on FR took the survey and it was entirely bogus. Will find the first hand reports tomorrow.

You’re pushing leftist agenda “gays in the military” crap and you’re a very recent signup.

RC here thinks homos in the military is a fine thing and service members will be happy if there are homos in the military.


48 posted on 11/15/2010 12:24:09 AM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: RC Clayton

zot


49 posted on 11/15/2010 12:47:55 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Nuke the corrupt commie bastards to HELL!!)
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To: Fantasywriter

Yeah?

You blamed Sarah Palin in Georgia’s election right?

Palin supported Handel. Yes.

Nathan Deal won the primary. Yes.

Handel didn’t run as Third Party candidate. Yes.

HANDEL GAVE HER SUPPORT TO DEAL. YEAH!

Nathan Deal won against the Democrat. Yes.

SO WHAT ARE YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT? IS NATHAN DEAL A GOOD GOVERNOR? COULDN’T ALSO BALANCE A BUDGET EH?

SO DEAL WITH DEAL!

[BTW, Palin’s Senatorial Pick won in Georgia!]


50 posted on 11/15/2010 3:11:16 AM PST by convertedtoreason ( Nature tells us to take a LIBERTARIAN CONSERVATIVE stance.)
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To: rabscuttle385

They should repeal DADT and enforce an outright ban on practicing homosexuals altogether.


51 posted on 11/15/2010 3:25:40 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: darkwing104; 50mm; Old Sarge; paulycy; darkangel82

See 49.


52 posted on 11/15/2010 3:59:13 AM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: nmh
Is McPain bisexual?

No... he's whipped and tired of sleeping on the couch.

53 posted on 11/15/2010 4:29:15 AM PST by GCC Catholic (0bama, what are you hiding? Just show us the birth certificate...)
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To: convertedtoreason

You called me a liar. Personal attacks and name calling are against the rules. Would you like to spell out exactly how I lied—and exactly which RINO I voted for in the primary—or would you like me to hit abuse?


54 posted on 11/15/2010 5:55:41 AM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter

Yes but the electorate of AZ thought otherwise. To put it into context tho these same voters thought Big Sis would make a good gov. LOL, thx a bunch AZ voters. We all see you did your homework before casing your votes. Then they have the gall to whine about illegals overrunning their stinking state. You have the govt you RICHLY deserve.


55 posted on 11/15/2010 6:04:04 AM PST by 556x45
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To: 556x45

I honestly thought this was the year McCain would be put out to pasture. His primary victory was a real disappointment. Now I’m just praying Miller can pull it out in AK. Murkowski comes across as the vindictive type. I could picture her voting with the Dems much of the coming six years, just to teach Miller supporters a lesson. I guess the majority gets the gov. they deserve. It’s pretty hard on the minority, though.


56 posted on 11/15/2010 6:09:27 AM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: Responsibility2nd
John and Cindy McCain are playing good GOP and bad GOP.

Leni

57 posted on 11/15/2010 9:14:54 AM PST by MinuteGal
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To: rabscuttle385

Juan’s just taking the first step back from his phony election year position on DA/DT. He’ll have no problem with rescinding the policy after a few more months pass.


58 posted on 11/15/2010 9:16:22 AM PST by Will88
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To: Venturer

“Don’t ask, don’t tell” has become “I’m telling you about it whether you want to hear it or not!”


59 posted on 11/15/2010 12:24:48 PM PST by babyfreep
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To: Fantasywriter

Okey. “LIE” IS NOT A PERSONAL ATTACK! I REALLY BELIEVE THAT WHAT YOU’RE TRYING TO INSINUATE IS A “LIE”.

Go back to your comment about “how Palin “disgraced” your Georgia election”? For me, you’re sowing a “slimy” idea.

LESSON 101:

Question: What is the most dangerous Lie of them all?

Answer: A comtemptuous “statement” seemingly factual, “harmless”, “pleading” ... and yet there’s an evil motive underneath.

APPLICATION:

1. From A legendary book called “the Bible”:

The “Serpent’s Lie” to Adam against God!

2. Modern Day Example:

Rachel Maddow’s method of “attack”! THAT’S DEVIL’S LIE!

MY POINT:

IF YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING AGAINST SOMEBODY EG. PALIN ... SAY IT UPFRONT! AND NEVER USE A STRAWMAN!


60 posted on 11/15/2010 4:33:03 PM PST by convertedtoreason ( Nature tells us to take a LIBERTARIAN CONSERVATIVE stance.)
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