Posted on 11/12/2010 7:47:04 PM PST by Stoat
EXCLUSIVE
The Sun Finds Poppy Thugs
The hate-filled extremists whipped up a 40-strong mob who screamed insults about Britain's war dead during the nation's two-minute silence on Thursday.
They head Muslims Against Crusades - formed after the radical group Islam4UK was banned - and want Sharia law imposed in the UK.
Pony-tailed leader Abu Assadullah masterminds the organisation's sick demos from a website where he spouts bile supporting al-Qaeda. He shares the name of a dead chief of the terror network linked to the 2008 Mumbai massacre, and posts video diatribes on MAC's YouTube channel.
Sidekick Abu Ubaidah helped organise Thursday's rally, near the Royal Albert Hall, central London, and was seen holding placards reading "British soldiers burn in hell" and "Afghanistan: The graveyard of empires".
He was wearing the distinctive black and white headscarf he donned for a vile video rant four days earlier, drumming up support for the anti-Britain event. In that, Ubaidah accused our brave boys of being "serial killers" who were "killing, torturing and raping Muslims".
He called on followers to hold a two-minute silence to honour terrorist Roshonara Choudhry, 21, who was jailed for life this month for stabbing Labour MP Stephen Timms in a failed murder attempt.
Zealot Abu Rahin Aziz, 28, was also seen at Thursday's protest, hurling abuse against our soldiers.
Former workmates told how Aziz used be a credit control operator at cable firm NTL and would hound female Asian workmates for wearing Western clothing. One said: "There were four or five Muslims who would hang around in a group. He was one.
"If the Asian women dressed in a Western way they would pressure them to try and get them to wear traditional Islam clothes. He always wore traditional white robes.
"When I saw the picture in The Sun, I instantly recognised him.
"This protest he was part of was absolutely disgraceful."
Aziz, fined £525 in June for driving without insurance, remained defiant yesterday about his role in the Remembrance Day rally when confronted by The Sun.
He said: "It was a peaceful demonstration. To us the poppy represents the killing of women and children in Afghanistan and Iraq by British soldiers."
Muslims Against Crusades follows the same agenda as banned groups al-Muhajiroun and Islam4UK, which were fronted by notorious firebrand Anjem Choudary.
He has claimed the men behind MAC as his "students". The group protested in Barking, East London, in June and called for Muslims to burn the Stars and Stripes outside the US embassy on the anniversary of 9/11. Islam4UK was outlawed in January after threatening to protest in Wootton Bassett, the Wiltshire town through which dead British soldiers are transported after being brought back from Afghanistan.
Two Muslims were bailed yesterday over the poppy burning protest. Four others were also released pending inquiries. Stephen Lennon, 27, founder of the English Defence League, was charged with assaulting a police officer.
By ANILA BAIG
SSun columnist
MUSLIMS Against Crusades? Well I'm a Muslim against disrespect.
I'm disgusted by this group who burned a giant poppy and shouted slogans when the nation stood in silence to remember those who had fallen.
I have worn a poppy, as do many of my Muslim friends. The majority of Muslims condemn this tiny group - 40 out of 2.5 million in this country - and want to get the message across that they do not represent the peaceful religion of Islam.
They claim to be speaking up for the people of Afghanistan. But, in truth, they have no respect for anyone and fail to see the irony of disrupting an event honouring those who fought for freedom - including THEIR/b> freedom to protest.
By SHIRAZ SETHI, Muslim poppy seller/b>
We raised more than £20,000 when 250 volunteers sold poppies at 50 underground and mainline stations in central London. And we hope to raise more this weekend in Birmingham.
One of the fundamental principles of Islam is charity and our particular motto that we live by is: "Love for all, hatred for none."
I totally condemn those minorities who have burned poppies. None of our community would have taken part in that demonstration,
Those protesters were a minority. They make up their own beliefs. They are not what Islam teaches. Islam teaches peace and obedience.
How long before this sort of garbage is commonplace here in the USA?
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A little background on Great Britain's poppy tradition at the UK Telegraph:
Remembrance Day poppies a history - Telegraph
The first Legion Poppy Day was held in Britain on 11 November 1921 and the following year Major George Howsen, an infantry officer, suggested to the British Legion that members should make artificial poppies to distribute to the public.
Howsen set up a small factory of workers off the Old Kent Road, providing work for veterans-many of them disabled-and their families.
The poppy was specifically designed so that it could be assembled with just one hand.
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The fact that these people were not stopped isn't tolerance. It is surrender.
Sometimes democracies need a bit of stiff rule to clean house. The old Roman republic would appoint a dictator for a period of one year where they would act as a laxative and purge the system of sh*t.
And the government arrested the counter-demonstrators.
England is lost.
Burn the thugs.
Smite the jihadists!
Smite the jihadists!
Please see British freepers posts about the EDL in other threads. They arent the answer.
They arrested some of the Muslims as well.
If there is any good from this, it is that:
a—The Sun has two British Muslims speaking on behalf of the majority who dont support either these scum or what they believe in.
b—this odious group is a pathetically small group.
They arrested some of the Muslims as well.
about time.
This group of loonies are a KNOWN bunch of loonies. The press only ask “do you know these cretins” in order to get a bazillion anecdotes so they can write a few articles. We already knew who they are. Most of them are jobless, unemployable chavs who’re too low rent even for Jeremy Kyle.
Their names are mud even in their own communities. They go out with the express intention of causing maximum offence to ALL people irrespective of faith, even their own.
See where I’m going here?
You have Phelps and his bunch of protestin’ cretins, we have Chaudhury and his bunch of protestin’ cretins. Both groups are dangerous in their own ways and neither should be condoned.
They’re CRETINS. You don’t ban cretins in America for speaking and acting like cretins, so why should we do it?
Unless you think there should be a policy to silence Phelps, Phelps-Roper and the rest of those lunatics who’re always “protesting” at veteran funerals, then you’ve got a ruddy nerve talking to us about “surrender” in this instance.
These cretins are going to be taken to the woodshed by their friends, their families, their communities, the press... Surrender my arse, we just know the difference between letting the community deliver the whupping and asking GUBMINT to do it.
That is how you deal with loonies.
Now, tell me again how the brave Brits stood up to this protest. Show me how the U.S. Government, under the worst President in my lifetime (that includes Jimmy Carter by the way, and that is saying something), is being asked to shut down Phelps and his disgusting crew.
For the record, I am sorry to see the UK overrun by Islam.
It’s not the Federal Government’s job to police the exercise of free speech even when it’s by a bunch of cretins who think, “How can we get in the newspapers? I know, let’s burn poppies on Remembrance Sunday.” Doesn’t matter if it’s on your side of the pond, or this side.
You seem to think there’s a massive difference between the Cult of Phelps making themselves hate targets by protesting at veterans’ funerals, and the Cult of Chaudhury doing the same damned thing.
But you’re wrong. There’s no difference. They’re both after the same thing: publicity.
At best, these idiots are not terrorists and are simply trying to make a name for themselves. In which case we should treat them the same way you guys treat Phelps... with the withering contempt they richly deserve.
At worst, they are Al Qaeda - but their mission isn’t to bomb us, it’s to make us look like fools in the Islamist press. Either way it’s nothing to get all hysterical about; the security services will be keeping very close tabs on these goons.
Al Qaeda’s operatives want Britain and America to get all hysterical, find a straw man to beat up, maybe invade another country that’s got nothing to do with Al Qaeda, and hand Al Qaeda its next recruiting advert.
Right now we’re content to let the press go after these scrotes, and name and shame them, and let their own communities tar and feather them. It’s a bit difficult for Al Qaeda to claim any kind of PR victory when the British Muslims turn their backs on these protesters, the British government acts in a very restrained manner, and the only people frothing about it are the press.
America takes the right attitude with media-whoring wind-up merchants like Phelps, but still acts all Chicken Little every time a Muslim media-whoring wind-up merchant does the exact same thing and seriously - you guys have GOT to wise up.
It’s only through the benefit of decades of direct experience with terrorism in our cities, that we Brits are able to tell the difference between a group of bona fide terrorists who need to be taken out of circulation in short order, a group of people seeking publicity who require a very different response, and propagandists for Al Qaeda.
From the British point of view, which IRA events really hurt us the most. Manchester? We rebuilt. Canary Wharf? Rebuilt that. The Brighton Bombing? No.
Try Bloody Sunday. Or the Hunger Strike. The IRA’s two biggest victories in its entire campaign, were down to us overreacting.
Let’s just hope it doesn’t take YOU guys fifty years and many, many more bombs on your soil and many more PR gifts to Al Qaeda, before you learn what we had to learn the hard way and STOP OVERREACTING.
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