Take a look a this photo of the "Mystery Missile" as it rises straight up and then disappears ...

State of the Nation ^ | November 12th 2010 | Myself

[DontTreadOnMe2009]

Are you seriously going to tell me that this is an airliner and not a missile???

Are you seriously going to tell me that this is an airliner and not a missile???

[muawiyah]

Yeah, it happens every day ~ the plane is going past LAX to land at PHX ~ the "base" doesn't really exist. That part of the contrail is pretty much the width of the closer parts. However, the light has to travel through many miles of atmosphere so it is MAGNIFIED.

The clouds you see in the foreground are far lower in elevation than the further clouds you see out over the ocean ~ the difference is probably in terms of miles of elevation.

Once the plane comes down to a lower elevation the contrail stops being produced since the air is warmer. I'd guess the landing glide path probably starts pretty close to LA.

[buccaneer81]

We’re being given the answer that is in the official PR manual for situations like this.

Yeah, and it took them two days to find the manual.

[DontTreadOnMe2009]

Sorry, I don’t agree; you can clearly see the thick heavy smoke coming out of the back (not from four engines)

and there are many other reasons to think “missile launch” already enumerated here by many FReepers with hands on experience so to speak, including experts in submarine missile launches;

And the Jane’s guy, who should know better than nearly anyone else in the world, (as Jane’s really REALLY know their stuff) disagrees with you.

And I know it doesn’t count for much but the “expert” in Moscow disagrees with you.

And I disagree with you.

[DontTreadOnMe2009]

I’ve seen an Atlas III fire off from Cape Canaveral, at about the same distance.

Looked identical.

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I have seen a few at Canaveral and many at Vandenberg.

They all looked identical to this.

Should I believe my own two lyin’ eyes ???

[<1/1,000,000th%]

This one's pretty. From a global warming site no less.

[tuckrdout]

Yeah, that is a pretty big reach. No iota of evidence for that; but plenty for a missle.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

More chemtrails.

[maine-iac7]

This is getting picked up across the blogs -

crucial story - if factual

Can anyone verify it coming from the Russian Space Agency> I don't find it on their site. I would like a more reliable source - or one that more people would take with less skepticism>) than the source cited here in FR.

Russian Space Agency link

http://www.federalspace.ru/main.php?id=2

Taas

http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/

I cannot find ANYthing on this separate from the Sorcha link - a source that many think suspect, though the story is as plausible as others put forth

[DontTreadOnMe2009]

Yes, I believe it to be a shot across our bow ...

[DontTreadOnMe2009]

I laughed.

[Tunehead54]

Also if it was an EMP, passenger cell phones, laptops, Kindles, etc. should be fried as well ... I haven’t heard of any such complaints ... yet. ;-)

[william clark]

That’s one of the little details that impressed me, the little corkscrew movement that one might expect from a missile making a course adjustment.

Also, as I understand it, for a jet to leave a contrail, it has to be at a pretty high altitude. It won’t have one below a certain height, and as others have noted, the breadth of the lower part of the trail seems too wide to be from a jet approaching from as far away as the horizon, which does reinforce the idea that it is vertical lift.

Can’t help but wonder, if they’re trying to use that USAir flight as an explanation because of its proximity, maybe that flight isn’t the explanation for the plume, but was an intended target a la TWA 800, only the aim was off this time.

[SE Mom]

bingo

[Danae]

Yea, straight up and continued over the sky overhead right? Well the LA contrail went off to the NW, it never arced over the sky. Explain that one.

[DontTreadOnMe2009]

An excerpt:

The problem with the “Contrail Hypothesis” is the contrail itself. Being in the aviation industry, often I make it a point to observe aircraft in flight and attempt to identify the aircraft passing overhead. This contrail is all together different that the contrail made by your run of the mill commercial, or general aviation, aircraft.

The volume of vapor left behind this particular vehicle is a great deal larger than any “aircraft” I have observed in the past.

Watch the video again and pay close attention to the light cast upon the vapor trail from the setting sun. One can clearly determine three factors that distinguish this contrail from one left behind by an aircraft.

1) The diameter of the trail is quite a deal larger than one left behind a large aircraft, say a 747-400,

2) The density of the vapor trail is far beyond what is created by a large commercial aircraft, regardless of altitude, and

3) contrails produced by commercial aircraft tend to condense into two separate columns of vapor connected by a faint layer in between created by the trailing turbulence created by the engines.

This is clearly a missile launch, don’t be fooled by that “Man behind the curtain.”

26 posted on 11/10/2010 3:58:26 PM PST by AngryCapitalist (PUSH HAS NOW COME TO SHOVE!)

[buccaneer81]

If the cruise ship were hit by an EMP, ALL unshielded electronics would have been ruined. Yet once in range of the coast, the passengers' personal cell phones were able to acquire a signal and they were able to make calls.

No EMP.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

This is still one of my favorites. But the plane is still attached.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

OOO! Here's a youtube video.

[raygun]

How do you know that its trajectory wasn’t from beyond the horizon at FL350, flying on a trajectory parallel to the surface having a vector generially in the direction of the camera and then at some distance from the camara the object begins decending and the vector of the object is now directly towards the camara such that the contrail being emitted by the object becomes obscured by the object itself.

Using spherical trigonomety: how far out does an object at FL350 need to be to become visable over the horizon? What angle of decent is required for such object’s most recent contrail to coincide, i.e., overlap, its earlier emitted contrail?

When you see a broomstick held at right angle to your prespective, what happens to the apparent length of the broomstick as it is brought closer to your position? What occurs when the broomstick’s longitudinal axis becomes parallel to its motion at right angle to your position? When the broomstick is orientated in such manner, how does its apparent lenght change as it approaches your position?

[<1/1,000,000th%]

Chemtrails over Ireland