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California Contrail Explained - Not Missile - False Alarm
Friends, Fiends, Blue Suiters and Zoomies | MB26

Posted on 11/10/2010 8:24:09 AM PST by MindBender26

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To: Names Ash Housewares; windcliff; stylecouncilor

Good presentation. Reasonably convincing.


141 posted on 11/10/2010 9:40:32 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Wissa

“You can’t reason someone out of something they didn’t reason themselves into.”


142 posted on 11/10/2010 9:43:34 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
You are not only a newbie TROLL, you are a stupid one at that.

You are right. I am stupid. But I still don't buy into this missile conspiracy thing. Sorry.

143 posted on 11/10/2010 9:46:21 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: CharlesWayneCT

The guy used the size of known objects (the hill) the plane that flies into the frame in the first video. Counted frames and did some math. My guess is not exactly but my first reaction was that it was moving to fast for an aircraft. I work under one of the primary East/West flight paths. You get a sense of how fast commercial aircraft travel when making trails. Yesterday I was looking at lunch and two what were clearly Military fighters went by traveling very fast compared to the 747 I could see with binos.


144 posted on 11/10/2010 9:48:46 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (What flavor kool-aid are you drinking?)
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To: rellimpank

After sundown I’ll see jets coming from the west. They look like bright stars due to the reflection off the body and the fact that they’re heading directly towad me makes them appear to be unmoving.

As they move closer the movement becomes apparent and they enter the shadow of the earth and then I see the normal flashing lights.


145 posted on 11/10/2010 9:49:38 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

—same here where you can see both the LA and San Francisco flights coming to McCarran—I’m in a dark part of town and also get a good view of such stuff as the space station going over-—


146 posted on 11/10/2010 9:57:13 AM PST by rellimpank
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To: steve86
B-17s

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147 posted on 11/10/2010 10:01:45 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: sissyjane
If this is true, then please tell me what airline and what flight number.

Like many other odd videos, when they say, "It's just like . . .", I'd say "Show me one just like this." YouTube or any other place?

148 posted on 11/10/2010 10:01:51 AM PST by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: MindBender26

The leftiest conspiracy theorists are calling this a “false flag” event, setting up their coming military coup of Obama, or something. They don’t seem to have a consistent position on airplanes that are mistaken for incoming missiles that are going in the wrong direction.


149 posted on 11/10/2010 10:02:49 AM PST by Darkwolf377 ( Mm, your tears are so yummy and sweet!Oh, the tears of unfathomable sadness! Mm-yummy! --E. Cartman)
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To: DoughtyOne
What if there were ten million photos of trails produced by aircraft that looked just like a missile? Would that mean that every trail that looked like that had to be produced by an aircraft?

If I see an airplane flying overhead, I believe it's an airplane. I don't start speculating that it may actually be Jesus flying over in a UFO disguised to look like an airplane.

In this case, with the photographic evidence possibly just showing an optical illusion, it makes sense to see what other evidence is out there.

There were zero reports from pilots about seeing a missile launch. Articles now are saying that there were no unexplained objects on radar at that time.

The only thing that could make those reports jibe with it being a missile on the video would be an unprecedented coverup. Not saying that massive coverup couldn't happen though. Just like maybe Jesus WILL fly over in his UFO one of these days.

150 posted on 11/10/2010 10:03:47 AM PST by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: sissyjane

Two contenders: US Airways AWE808 or United Parcel Service UPS902


151 posted on 11/10/2010 10:03:47 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: DoughtyOne
Could it be an aircraft trail? Yes. Could it be something else? Well, yes. Do we really know right now? Well, no.

Once my tin foil hat is properly adjusted (Shiny side out of course)I will provide a scientific statement that will have the world on its feet. Please stand by............

152 posted on 11/10/2010 10:04:36 AM PST by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98 Class of '98)
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To: SeeSac
Sorry for the harsh words.

I apologize and I was out of line. I misread an earlier post from someone else to you.

I am dead set against ignorant conspiracy theory myself. It is fully obvious that this IS an airliner cruising out of a heavy moisture atmosphere, the Sun is reflecting off of it's belly and even it's anti collision lighting is still visible in the early sky.

What fuels my anger is the Press, making this out to be something that it clearly is not. They are the ones who look stupid.

153 posted on 11/10/2010 10:04:50 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP ( Give me Liberty, or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: cripplecreek

Yep, but nine-cylinder radials still aren’t turboprops or jets.


154 posted on 11/10/2010 10:07:52 AM PST by steve86
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I’m willing to believe the plane theory. If that’s the actual case- then why wasn’t the FAA/military able to immediately say this is an odd but normal opitcal illusion- it’s a simple jet contrail with intresting lighting.

WHY have they been jerking people around? If it was a plane- why didn’t they say- after reserching we fnd Flight # 808 from Hawaii to Arizona was in the air at that location etc..etc??


155 posted on 11/10/2010 10:08:23 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: calex59
No, west flight works perfect to explain. The contrail spreads out farther away, as it has had time to spread out, and makes that portion look close, the closer portion of the contrail is thin because it is fresh, and makes it look farther away as if it is moving away to the west.

You can back down from Defcon 5 ok?

It was an airliner.

I'm appreciate good paranoia, LOL it's healthy to a certian point, but this ain't it.

156 posted on 11/10/2010 10:08:30 AM PST by Names Ash Housewares ( Refusing to kneel before the "messiah".)
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To: McGruff

It’s an airliner.

Think about it, if there was a missile launch, why deny it? Even if it was something they wanted to cover up, like a chinese submarine-launched missile right off our coast... the easiest way to cover it up would be to just say it was a routine missile exercise by one of our subs. Nobody would think anything was unusual about that.

An airliner coming in over the horizon would make a contrail that looks just like that. If he was changing altitude, say, beginning his descent, there will be a point where he no longer produces a contrail and it just stops, leaving the optical illusion that it’s actually pointed the other way and disappearing.


157 posted on 11/10/2010 10:12:08 AM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: MindBender26

Did they do the CIA video yet?


158 posted on 11/10/2010 10:12:37 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: Wissa

“The apparent 95% of people that refuse to believe that it may simply be an interesting optical illusion makes me wonder if we really DO need the elites to do our thinking for us.”

Well if anything it’s been an interesting display of human nature. Imagine when things get more complex.

Our propensity for wanting something to be is something we all must keep in self check and fight self deception.

Hence good scientific process and a good skeptical tool kit.

That being said, I can see something visually impactful as this being hard to understand without some experience and knowledge about it. So it is expected on some level.


159 posted on 11/10/2010 10:13:29 AM PST by Names Ash Housewares ( Refusing to kneel before the "messiah".)
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To: jimbo123

“You are quoting someone called “Unicus” from an ANONYMOUS blog as your source? Who the hell is “Unicus”?”

He could be Obama’s secret government operative for the coverup for all I care.

The science is sound and nothing new.

It was an airliner. Relax and draw down.
I’ll be right there with ya if a Chinese boomer actually pops one off ok?


160 posted on 11/10/2010 10:15:56 AM PST by Names Ash Housewares ( Refusing to kneel before the "messiah".)
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