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Congressional analysis: Obama eligibility never was confirmed
WND ^ | NOVEMBER 8, 2010 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 11/08/2010 5:11:53 PM PST by RobinMasters

A congressional document that has been posted on the Internet confirms no one – not Congress, not the states and not election officials – bothered to check Barack Obama's eligibility to be president, and in fact, that status remains undocumented to this day.

It's because state and federal law did not require anyone in Congress or elsewhere to check to see if Obama was a "natural born Citizen" under the meaning of Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution, according the document.

The analysis by the Congressional Research Service, a research arm of the U.S. Congress, openly admits no one in the federal government, including Congress, ever asked to see Obama's long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate. In fact, it explains no one was required to do so.

Technically, the CRS is a public policy research arm of the United States Congress that is organized as a legislative branch agency within the Library of Congress; the CRS works exclusively for members of Congress, congressional committees and congressional staff in an advisory capacity, answering questions.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; eligibility; loophole; naturalborncitizen; obama; palin
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To: VADoc1980
If justices were bound by some notion that stare decisis is inviolate or even mostly inviolate, we would likely have some horrible remnants in our society today.

We do. Lots of them. But you made this statement...

You showed me some Supreme Court cases, correct? Those aren't binding on the current Supreme Court.

So, even without being binding in the absolute, stare decisis is important just as Justice Scalia said. What difference does it make if I mentioned what case he used as an example? Either you have an argument that stands on its own merits or you don't. You don't.

121 posted on 11/08/2010 11:22:36 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye
If they weren’t U.S. citizens then Jindal isn’t eligible to be President. So what?

Oh cause you say so? Well, all right then. My turn for a red herring I suppose: In other news, gravity has been suspended and 9/11 was an inside job.

Are you going to mount a campaign to keep him out of the Republican debates should he seek run in 2012? Because according to you, it's a cut and dried case that he's ineligible. I think the majority of the law faculty even at a school like Regent would disagree with you there.

122 posted on 11/08/2010 11:24:22 PM PST by VADoc1980
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To: VADoc1980

I really wasn’t paying any attention to whose site it was. It has loads of sourced information and who Appuzo is didn’t matter to me when I bookmarked it many months ago or now. Personalities don’t impress me much for better or for worse. I look to the quality of information being provided and take the opinions with a grain of salt.


123 posted on 11/08/2010 11:27:52 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: VADoc1980

If he isn’t eligible I won’t support him and I will do what I can to shoot his candidacy down on that basis.


124 posted on 11/08/2010 11:29:21 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: VADoc1980
Oh cause you say so?

Is my opinion worth less than yours?

125 posted on 11/08/2010 11:32:23 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye

That’s rich. But I assume you’d have a problem with me linking to the non-partisan FactCheck on this issue because of their funding from Annenberg Foundation, even though pundits on the right side of the spectrum like O’Reilly have used their info on this matter to debunk the birther myths.


126 posted on 11/08/2010 11:36:54 PM PST by VADoc1980
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To: TigersEye

No, but you keep saying that I haven’t responded to yours, well I will respond to your claims when you respond to my #118. I’m using a link that you provided. Chin doesn’t mention any of your superstar 19th century cases. I quoted him directly. Where exactly is he wrong? I’m guessing you agree with Chin’s conclusion by the way that McCain is eligible to be president, otherwise why would you be citing him?


127 posted on 11/08/2010 11:38:23 PM PST by VADoc1980
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To: TigersEye

Sorry, I meant to say “ineligible” in the last line of my #127, not “eligible”. Chin concluded that McCain was ineligible to be president by virtue of his birth in the no man’s land of the Panama Canal in 1936.


128 posted on 11/08/2010 11:39:20 PM PST by VADoc1980
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To: TigersEye
O'Reilly
129 posted on 11/08/2010 11:42:45 PM PST by VADoc1980
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To: VADoc1980
I have literally dozens of links. It has been many months since I focused on this issue and collected them so I have to knock off the dust, so to speak, to find the ones I want in a given discussion. I didn't want to load you down with a long list of articles. Here is one I was going to pass on and excerpt from...

Founder and Historian David Ramsay Defines a Natural Born Citizen in 1789

In his 1789 article, Ramsay first explained who the “original citizens” were and then defined the “natural born citizens” as the children born in the country to citizen parents. He said concerning the children born after the declaration of independence, “[c]itizenship is the inheritance of the children of those who have taken part in the late revolution; but this is confined exclusively to the children of those who were themselves citizens….” Id. at 6. He added that “citizenship by inheritance belongs to none but the children of those Americans, who, having survived the declaration of independence, acquired that adventitious character in their own right, and transmitted it to their offspring….” Id. at 7. He continued that citizenship “as a natural right, belongs to none but those who have been born of citizens since the 4th of July, 1776….” Id. at 6.

There is a quote from one of the authors of the 14th Amendment that makes clear that it was not intended to address anyone other than the descendants of slaves but I haven't found it yet.

130 posted on 11/08/2010 11:42:49 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: VADoc1980

Fact Check is non-partisan? ROTFLOL So, you are a troll from DU I take it? Bye!


131 posted on 11/08/2010 11:44:11 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: VADoc1980

I cited Chin not because I think he is right but because you threw in your own non-sequitur persona a la Jindal. Calling BOR right-wing cinches the fact that you’re a left-wing troll.


132 posted on 11/08/2010 11:46:49 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye
Way to put words in my mouth, TigersEye. You're just calling me a troll because you're losing the argument. And I didn't call O'Reilly right-wing. I said that he was on the right side of the spectrum.

And regardless of where O'Reilly's political loyalties lie, he sure owned that birther, and his Fox News audience dwarfs the birthers by a factor of 10.

133 posted on 11/08/2010 11:50:01 PM PST by VADoc1980
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To: VADoc1980
I didn't put any words in your mouth and I couldn't possibly be losing the argument since you haven't made one with any substance. BOR isn't on the right side of the spectrum. He's an east coast populist and a blowhard.

I'm calling you a troll because you're repeating the same long ago beaten into the dust claims made a thousand times in the last two years. That and your superior-than-thou attitude. Maybe that's just the doctor in you. Been there and dealt with that for the first thirty years of my life. lol

134 posted on 11/08/2010 11:58:53 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye
I met Ann Coulter at a book signing for Guilty in 2009. Figuring that because she was an attorney and rather knowledgeable, I took my ten seconds with her to ask her what she thought about the birthers. You know what she said? There's nothing to it. It's a distraction from the real issues like Obamacare. What do you think about that, TigersEye? Maybe you need to add her to your hatelist also. Your views aren't mainstream. I don't think they're mainstream on this site, let alone in the Republican Party as a whole or nationwide. Birthers are generally thought of as cranks, when they're thought of at all.
135 posted on 11/08/2010 11:59:44 PM PST by VADoc1980
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To: TigersEye
If you believe in this stuff so much, then certainly you think the Republicans should run ads about it in 2012 when Obama is up for re-election right? It's such a travesty that he illegally usurped the office and it's such a winning issue for us, right? Do you realize how similar most birthers sound to 9/11 truthers? Every piece of opposing evidence is dismissed because that is what keeps the conspiracy going. If you don't think Democrats love it then you're wrong. Obama is sitting in the White House laughing at it. I think he wishes it was still as big as it was last year. The birther frenzy has died down a bit, fortunately. But why wouldn't he love it? Most Americans think it's crap, it distracts from the real issues like Obama's ever-creeping socialism and the situation in Afghanistan.

You may think that not all birthers froth at the mouth and actually produce cogent arguments which you seem to be capable of, but you'd be incorrect:

o'reilly smacking down birthers

136 posted on 11/09/2010 12:05:48 AM PST by VADoc1980
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To: TigersEye
coulter owns birthers
137 posted on 11/09/2010 12:07:37 AM PST by VADoc1980
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To: VADoc1980
And regardless of where O'Reilly's political loyalties lie, he sure owned that birther, and his Fox News audience dwarfs the birthers by a factor of 10.

You can't be serious? I wasn't going to bother watching the video until you said that. I watched it. BOR made a complete ass of himself. The only point he had was "nobody cares." Yet polls show that 65% of the population aren't sure where 0bama was born. BOR was actually a bigger buffoon in that segment than he usually is.

138 posted on 11/09/2010 12:14:30 AM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: VADoc1980

I don’t consider the Constitution an issue for a popularity contest. You sound about as deep as 0’Really. As deep as water on a wet sidewalk.


139 posted on 11/09/2010 12:16:44 AM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: VADoc1980
You know what she said? There's nothing to it. It's a distraction from the real issues like Obamacare. What do you think about that, TigersEye?

I think her opinion is worth no more than mine. I could not care less what she thinks about it.

Maybe you need to add her to your hatelist also.

Hate list? LOLOL You're getting shallower by the minute.

140 posted on 11/09/2010 12:18:40 AM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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