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To: ModelBreaker

What a stupid argument, sad thing is too many people think just like you.

And that is why we are in the mess we are in.


14 posted on 11/07/2010 4:11:53 AM PST by stockpirate ("......When the government fears the people you have liberty." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: stockpirate; ModelBreaker
What a stupid argument, sad thing is too many people think just like you.

Yes it's stupid remark, but it's the MSM lingo. Who comes to FR to read liberal 'fear' tactics posts.
26 posted on 11/07/2010 4:26:43 AM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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To: stockpirate

“What a stupid argument, sad thing is too many people think just like you.”

As long as you’re good with HRC being the president in 2012 and losing our house majority, your argument is a great one.

American’s are going to be mightily annoyed if R’s in Congress get bogged down in birther controversies instead of cutting spending, building a fence on the border, and emasculating ObamaCare. An R congress that doesn’t focus on the issues that brought it to power will be gone in two years.

If R’s succeed with the birther issue, the likely response by the public (similar to Clinton’s impeachment) will to be pissed off at R’s. Remember, we were right about impeachment. Clinton lied and obstructed justice. Slam dunk. Didn’t help at all.

Finally, as I said before, I don’t like doing HRC’s spadework for her. The black community will blame whoever takes down Obama as a non-citizen. If rats do it, we have an opening to reducing the automatic democrat vote amongst 10% of the population for decades. If we do it, that demographic is gone for at least my lifetime.

Between you and me, I think there may be a pony at the bottom of the pile of birther horse manure. Strategically, though, it’s a dead-bang loser.


28 posted on 11/07/2010 4:30:35 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: stockpirate; ModelBreaker

MB is right, this is just a distraction that will give Obama extra support that he doesn’t have now. The best thing for conservatives is to just hold our noses for the next 2 years and quietly starve his agenda.

And watch as Hillary sneaks up behind him with a (political) knife.


29 posted on 11/07/2010 4:31:16 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: stockpirate

Totally agree with you there, I’m sick to death with “hands off” approach that because he’s the first black president we can’t do what we are allowed to do with anyone else flagrantly violating our laws. Such wimpy people out there it makes you sick.


53 posted on 11/07/2010 5:02:32 AM PST by VeeP22
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To: stockpirate; ModelBreaker
Honestly, this situation is much bigger than Obama. It's his socialist agenda that must be defeated, and the same could be said for all the top democrats. If we focus on just Obama, the real issue and debate on socialism in America gets discarded as the left rallies around Obama and screams "racism" and that the republicans have no real issue other than they hate the president.

If the debate goes to Obama's agenda, we can discuss and control the topic, which is the complete and total failure of socialism at a societal level. All the while, we clamp down the purse strings and defund every piece of the damage he's done.

We control what law and budget gets out of congress now. Anything else is towards building the 2012 campaign platform.

Sure, let someone pursue his elibility, I'm not against that. The focus needs to be on why Obama is a failure, however. Not the simple fact that he is a complete failure -everyone knows that by now!

57 posted on 11/07/2010 5:19:33 AM PST by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: stockpirate

I agree with you.


63 posted on 11/07/2010 5:44:28 AM PST by earlJam
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