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Texas Considers Medicaid Withdrawal
State-Controlled NY Times ^ | Nov. 6, 2010 | Comrade EMILY RAMSHAW

Posted on 11/06/2010 6:14:22 PM PDT by USALiberty

Some Republican lawmakers — still reveling in Tuesday’s statewide election sweep — are proposing an unprecedented solution to the state’s estimated $25 billion budget shortfall: dropping out of the federal Medicaid program.

Far-right conservatives are offering that possibility in impassioned news conferences. Moderate Republicans are studying it behind closed doors. And the party’s advisers on health care policy say it is being discussed more seriously than ever, though they admit it may be as much a huge in-your-face to Washington as anything else.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: socialism; statesrights; texas
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To: Non-Sequitur
If by law emergency rooms are forbidden from turning people away because of inability to pay, and if the state won't reimburse hospitals for treatment

That is EASILY fixed. Change the law. What if every emergency room had a machine at the entrance that required folks to scan an insurance or ATM card? No legit insurance? Fine, then scan the ATM card. Not enough in the bank account to assure the hospital of payment? NO admittance.
61 posted on 11/07/2010 6:09:53 AM PST by USALiberty
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To: USALiberty

IF this will help Texas shortfall...this is a commonsense move.


62 posted on 11/07/2010 6:51:50 AM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: bigredkitty1

An end to the welfare state would bring eventually bring on an economic boom unlike anything we have seen before. When people have to work to live, they will. Just look at the Illegals who flood here and take jobs.


63 posted on 11/07/2010 7:15:05 AM PST by billhilly
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To: billhilly

My God. What a convoluted sentence. Note to self. Edit, then post.


64 posted on 11/07/2010 7:16:41 AM PST by billhilly
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To: USALiberty
SIMPLE to solve. Pass a law in Texas that allows (or perhaps even requires) hospitals to TURN AWAY THE DEADBEATS. Hospitals that decide to treat the deadbeats should have to PROVE that the costs are not being passed along to paying customers. Problem is that EMTALA is a federal law; some liberal group that wants to see illegals continue to get free care will merely sue in federal court and have a law like this stayed in a matter of days if not weeks.
65 posted on 11/07/2010 7:16:56 AM PST by Yet_Again
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To: 101voodoo
Have you given any thought to what would happen to the world economy should America announce a default on its debt?

America *is* defaulting on its debt as we speak...we're just doing it through devaluation, instead of default.
66 posted on 11/07/2010 7:17:47 AM PST by Yet_Again
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To: bigredkitty1

“I do think there should be charity available, but through PRIVATE avenues of distribution such as churches or other philanthropic organizations.”

At one time we had charity hospitals operating all over the country. The poor could receive medical care. These hospitals were staffed by religious orders and medical treatment offered by MD volunteers.

Then the liberal thieves took over health care and used the fascist federal bureaucracy to shut them down. And anyone who doesn’t believe that thieving liberals are running hospitals isn’t paying attention. With their over-billing, double-billing, kickbacks and other schemes, hospitals are at the forefront of robbing the American people blind.

The biggest and fastest growing segment of the legal profession is Qui Tam law firms. There is billions to made by lawyers going after these thieving liberal crooks and uncovering the numerous robberies.

Liberal hospitals should be flying the Jolly Rogers flag at their entrances, with a big neon sign stating “Enter Here and You Will Be Robbed.”


67 posted on 11/07/2010 7:50:31 AM PST by sergeantdave
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To: 101voodoo
America has no choice. Nor does the world. The fiat-money, debt-based financial system is corrupt to the core, and deflationary debt-collapse is inevitable, one way or another. What I or anyone else prefers is irrelevant.

At a minimum, the world is on a path (from which there is no escape) like that of France under John Law, England during the South Sea Bubble, or Holland during the Tulip mania. And that's if were lucky. If we're not, we're following the path of the Roman Empire.

68 posted on 11/07/2010 8:14:45 AM PST by sourcery (Poor Nancy: From Speaker OF the House to...Speaker UNDER the House)
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To: Yet_Again

It is not even close to being the same as an outright default. Currency weakens and strengthens, defaut is the end game and not reversable.


69 posted on 11/07/2010 8:42:11 AM PST by 101voodoo
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To: 101voodoo
It is not even close to being the same as an outright default. Currency weakens and strengthens, defaut is the end game and not reversable.

Sort of like the difference between smoking and drinking heavily for 40 years and putting a bullet through your head I suppose. At some point, devaluation is irreversible, as the "full faith and credit of the United States government" has no meaning.
70 posted on 11/07/2010 11:58:53 AM PST by Yet_Again
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To: Yet_Again
Problem is that EMTALA is a federal law

NILLIFY it at the state level. If the feds try to enforce it... well, that's what we have the Oath Keepers for!
71 posted on 11/07/2010 4:40:40 PM PST by USALiberty
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To: USALiberty
NILLIFY it at the state level. If the feds try to enforce it... well, that's what we have the Oath Keepers for! How do you do that? What will happen is that the first hospital that starts turning away patients in violation of EMTALA will end up as the defendent in a few hundred malpractice suits...not to mention fines from the Feds. It'll be bankrupt, the doors will close, and that will be that.
72 posted on 11/07/2010 5:29:31 PM PST by Yet_Again
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To: Yet_Again

What do you suppose would be the result of all governments everywhere (that matter) freezing spending at current levels for say 10 years? This would mean ALL gov’t expenditures (at all levels of government) including salaries would remain unchanged for that period of time.

Seems as if this would go a long way to reducing the deficits down the road. There could be no more new spending permitted unless it was offset dollar for dollar by a cut in spending elsewhere.

If at the same time this was instituted, term limits were also put into place I believe real progress could be made. With the sure knowledge they would only be serving one term, politicians would not be promising “free stuff” to the voters in exchange for their vote and perhaps then they would do what’s right for the country instead of what’s right for themselves.


73 posted on 11/08/2010 2:03:03 AM PST by 101voodoo
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To: Yet_Again

What do you suppose would be the result of all governments everywhere (that matter) freezing spending at current levels for say 10 years? This would mean ALL gov’t expenditures (at all levels of government) including salaries would remain unchanged for that period of time.

Seems as if this would go a long way to reducing the deficits down the road. There could be no more new spending permitted unless it was offset dollar for dollar by a cut in spending elsewhere.

If at the same time this was instituted, term limits were also put into place I believe real progress could be made. With the sure knowledge they would only be serving one term, politicians would not be promising “free stuff” to the voters in exchange for their vote and perhaps then they would do what’s right for the country instead of what’s right for themselves.


74 posted on 11/08/2010 2:03:03 AM PST by 101voodoo
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To: txhurl

I don’t have a problem with this at all. I hope they also have an AZ style immigration bill, that adds an ope season to all illegals. Pop when you see ‘em.


75 posted on 11/08/2010 5:23:23 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Work harder than ever for 2012.)
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To: 101voodoo
What do you suppose would be the result of all governments everywhere (that matter) freezing spending at current levels for say 10 years?

What would be the result of an individual who was spending twice what he makes in a year freezing spending at current levels for say 10 years? Promising to be no worse of a profligate than you are now will not cure anything.
76 posted on 11/08/2010 5:24:50 AM PST by Yet_Again
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To: Yet_Again

Buy a fulfilled promise to NOT increase spending and thereby the deficit, the markets and consumers would react favorably and spending would increase, tax revenues would increase and gov borrowing would decrease, all leading to a deficit reduction.

As profits increased employees salaries would increase (not gov’t employees, however)and this would increase the taxes paid by both the consumer and the company. This is not an increase in the rates just an increase of what is paid under that rate. Also since anyone with even the most basic knowledge of economics knows, businesses pay ZERO taxes since the cost of the tax is built into the price they charge for their product. Therefore Corporate and other business related taxes should be heavily cut which would cause prices to drop as the companies vie with each other to gain market share through lower prices.


77 posted on 11/08/2010 6:21:02 AM PST by 101voodoo
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To: Ladysmith
Yeah, it's hard to stomache that I can't actually afford needed healthcare, because I can barely afford to pay for my healthcare insurance and taxes...

And those people who don't pay anything, get “free” healthcare, because I pay for it, through my insurance premiums and my taxes.
But I still can't afford to be seen by a doctor.

Obomacare just makes it more burdensome on me to pay for everyone else.

But as an Atlas, I am going to shrug.
I can carry some of the burdens of my fellow citizens for a short time, when they need a little help.
I refuse to carry the entire world on my shoulders.

78 posted on 11/09/2010 6:48:11 PM PST by sarasmom (No incumbent re-elected, at any level of government office.(Period))
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