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Texas Considers Medicaid Withdrawal
State-Controlled NY Times ^ | Nov. 6, 2010 | Comrade EMILY RAMSHAW

Posted on 11/06/2010 6:14:22 PM PDT by USALiberty

Some Republican lawmakers — still reveling in Tuesday’s statewide election sweep — are proposing an unprecedented solution to the state’s estimated $25 billion budget shortfall: dropping out of the federal Medicaid program.

Far-right conservatives are offering that possibility in impassioned news conferences. Moderate Republicans are studying it behind closed doors. And the party’s advisers on health care policy say it is being discussed more seriously than ever, though they admit it may be as much a huge in-your-face to Washington as anything else.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: socialism; statesrights; texas
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To: bigredkitty1
These services are the financial responsibility of the person receiving the services, not the US taxpayers.

RIGHT! And if you can't afford it, then sorry, you just don't get it. Same as everything else!
21 posted on 11/06/2010 6:52:08 PM PDT by USALiberty
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To: ottbmare
But let’s be honest about this system: the hospitals still do get funding from the state, even if it’s not Medicaid, so it’s not as if the poor suddenly went out to purchase $1500-a-month Blue Cross/Blue Shield private policies.

It's still redistribution. So, it's still wrong. The "poor" (and by that we really mean THE LAZY and/or the ILLEGAL) don't have a claim on my earnings. Let's make this simple: NO WELFARE. Period.
22 posted on 11/06/2010 6:55:17 PM PDT by USALiberty
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To: USALiberty

Ever so sorry, I should have proofed my submission and left out the ‘as we know it’ part. I want all welfare progams funded by taxpayers ended. I want the government OUT of the benevolence industy, it does it badly anyway.

I do think there should be charity available, but through PRIVATE avenues of distribution such as churches or other philanthropic organizations. My rationale for this is simple: when the funds or assistance goes through fewer hands, less is squandered and more reaches the intended target.


23 posted on 11/06/2010 6:59:06 PM PDT by bigredkitty1 (March 5,2010. Rest in peace, sweet boy. I will miss you, Big Red.)
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To: ottbmare

BTTT

If it’s ‘being considered’, then it’s probably already a done deal. We have a dire shortage of physicians coming up on us. If we don’t put medicine back into the market, nobody will want to practice here.


24 posted on 11/06/2010 7:01:40 PM PDT by txhurl (If we can shake Congress like a can of pennies, we can uproot voter fraud like a D-9.)
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To: USALiberty
YES! It is ABOUT TIME!

There should be an OSHA type monitoring of Medicaid recipients. Marriage is avoided in order to game the Medicaid system and when recipients only have to answer questions about their eligibility status on a yearly basis by phone, common sense would dictate the opportunity for fraud is monumental.

25 posted on 11/06/2010 7:03:48 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: Arrowhead1952; basil

Ping!


26 posted on 11/06/2010 7:04:27 PM PDT by txhurl (If we can shake Congress like a can of pennies, we can uproot voter fraud like a D-9.)
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To: USALiberty; Morpheus2009; saveliberty; fabrizio; Civitas2010; Radagast the Fool; DoctorBulldog; ...
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Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.

27 posted on 11/06/2010 7:05:01 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: ottbmare
"Before everybody jumps all over us for being heartless monsters who want children to suffer:"

That's the sort of thing we've got to learn to steel ourselves against. We know we're not knowinly going to allow children to suffer - we never have, it's a figment of the lefts' imagination that they use for a battering ram.

The worse problem conservatives have is a weak "guilt" trigger. We react to the liberals guilt trips before we even check to see if they are telling the truth. That doesn't make us "caring", that makes us fools, as we know how the leftists are.

The left is using a version of the child ploy, "You don't love me", against a parent to get out of being told "no". Parents who care can't fall for that sort of thing, and neither can the conservatives take it from the liberal "children".

Remember, the conservatives passed civil rights; it's the conservatives who are in the churches across the land helping the poor and the homeless. The liberals use all that as a punch line to relieve us of our cash.

I don't know a conservative in the world who would allow a child to suffer or starve - but we can't take all the parents' responsibilities, we've got our own children and their futures to look after.
28 posted on 11/06/2010 7:09:43 PM PDT by FrankR (REPEAL Obamacare, or we'll vote you outta' there....)
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To: USALiberty

Before any FReepers think me totally heartless and knowing not from whence I speak, I grew up without ANY medical insurance. I received my school shots through the local clinic(for which my parents paid cash) and only saw the doctor when I was REALLY sick.(Fever,intense pain, lingering symptoms...those sorts of things.)

Parents now think it’s perfectly acceptable to have taxpayers foot the bill for they and their kids’ medical care. These so-called parents spend their precious funds on more ‘important’ things: the hair/nail salon, the cellphone, the cable bill, beer, cigarettes...need I continue? A vast segment of the US population needs to fully grasp the meaning of these two words: GROW UP! Not physically grow up but mentally grow up. Being an adult means taking RESPONSIBILITY of your life, this includes financial responsibility. For the survival of the nation, the welfare gravy train is going to have to pull into the station and EVERYONE is going to have to get off.


29 posted on 11/06/2010 7:17:49 PM PDT by bigredkitty1 (March 5,2010. Rest in peace, sweet boy. I will miss you, Big Red.)
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To: bigredkitty1

Forget that. We should secede already.


30 posted on 11/06/2010 7:26:24 PM PDT by Clump (the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: USALiberty

And drop completely any unfunded mandate

Completely de-fund the left


31 posted on 11/06/2010 7:26:44 PM PDT by Mr. K (All our candidates suck! The media SAYS SO!!)
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To: USALiberty

If it will drive the illegals out of Texas lets do it.


32 posted on 11/06/2010 7:28:21 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: USALiberty

How about denial of all medical services to the 60,000 anchor babies who are born in Texas every single year?


33 posted on 11/06/2010 7:29:48 PM PDT by montag813 (http://www.facebook.com/StandWithArizona)
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To: FrankR
I don't know a conservative in the world who would allow a child to suffer or starve - but we can't take all the parents' responsibilities, we've got our own children and their futures to look after.

I agree. And that's why I think it's a good thing that even people who are poor should be compelled to pay some kind of copay and chip in for a system like these Texas hospitals have, with local hospital-based insurance. They are never going to be able to afford $1500-a-month BC/BS coverage, but then neither can I, and neither can a lot of working people. This is a good compromise.

34 posted on 11/06/2010 7:40:45 PM PDT by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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To: USALiberty
Force you to pay?
ROTFLMAO!
I can't even find out how much I am going to be charged for my biopsy lab results!!!

I have “health insurance”. I pay $271.00 a month, my employer pays $271.00 a month.($542.00 is paid towards my insurance every month)
My deductable is $2000.00 before any insurance benefits kick in. After I pay an additional $2000.00 cash for services rendered, my insurance company just might pay 80% of charges, untill I pay $5000.00 in actual cash, in any one calender year.
I can't be certain how much my insurance will cover, because my doctor refuses to tell me in advance how much he will actually charge for his service.

But I can not really schedule any appointments unless I have at least $2000.00 cash saved up to pay for my insurance deductable.
Otherwise, I won't be allowed to be seen by the doctor's assistant.
OTOH, If I didn't have an insurance policy, and had to pay cash for medical treatment, the same doctor would charge double the rate he charges patients who have insurance.
Cash paying customer Charged $460.00 for an office visit,visual exam, and taking two skin biopcies.
My real cash cost so far for services rendered, $206.73.
I do not know how much the lab is going to charge me for reading the results of my biopsy.
I am still awaiting the bill.

YOU do not pay jackshit for my healthcare, or lack thereof.
YOU actually jacked up my cost for healthcare, because
YOU ignorantly think the Doctor has an actual set price for his services.
YOU don't appear to care that there is no real way to actually shop around for the best healthcare practitioner.

YOU appear to be content with an arbitrary system, that YOU pay extra for, one entirely divorced from actual cost/benefit ratios.

35 posted on 11/06/2010 7:53:07 PM PDT by sarasmom (No incumbent re-elected, at any level of government office.(Period))
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To: GeronL

In general, I think that ending Medicaid is a good idea...however, without eliminating EMTALA, ending Medicaid will only result in these people showing up in Emergency Rooms as “uninsured” people entitled to the same care that Medicaid used to reimburse for...driving hospitals further into the red as they are forced by federal law to treat these folks for free.

Beware the law of unintended consequence.


36 posted on 11/06/2010 7:56:40 PM PDT by Yet_Again
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To: GeronL
Mr. Zerwas (or the reporter) have remembered that the federal governments money also comes from taxpayers, including Texas taxpayers.

He must also remember that the Federal money also requires that the hospitals provide life saving care regardless of the ability to pay for any person walking in to the hospital.

For Texas that I am sure is a huge expense.

Do the math. I bet that the Federal money is costing the state more than it is getting.

Reject the Federal money and the strings attached to the same.

37 posted on 11/06/2010 7:57:58 PM PDT by Pontiac
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To: USALiberty

If they do this I am moving to Texas.


38 posted on 11/06/2010 8:03:36 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Pontiac

have NOT remembered....

AAAARRRGGHHHH....

I thought I was being profound and I keep forgetting that I am half blind and need to proof read.


39 posted on 11/06/2010 8:06:04 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: ottbmare

I think thats another thing the left wants to being to an end, hospitals having their own plans.


40 posted on 11/06/2010 8:07:14 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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