[Lou Budvis]

“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” 14th Amendment.

Rubio was born in the US, he’s a US citizen. End of story.

[chatter4]

“Rubio was born in the US, he’s a US citizen. End of story.”

I did not ask where he was born, or question his citizenship-I asked about his parents citizenship.

[Jess79]

I don’t think that is what chatter4 is getting at. If Marco’s parents were not citizens at the time of his birth, then he is a citizen by virtue of being born in the US, but he is not a “natural born” citizen and is not eligible to be President.

[Ron/GA]

“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” 14th Amendment.

Rubio was born in the US, he’s a US citizen. End of story.

Help me out here. What is the intent and effect of the qualifier "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" on "All persons born or naturalized in the United States".

[Noob1999]

..........................“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” 14th Amendment.

Rubio was born in the US, he’s a US citizen. End of story..................

Wonderful response! I think that the state of Florida should question his credentials, and thus open the flood gates of a certin President who may not be able to present his credentials!

[TXnMA]

"Rubio was born in the US, he’s a US citizen. End of story."

Following the Øbozo Liberal line, eh?

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Citizen, yes. Natural Born Citizen, no.

Only Citizen parentage determines a Citizen's Natural Born status.

[SatinDoll]

We know that. But were his parents naturalized citizens before his birth?

[TREGEN]

Rubio was born in the US, he’s a US citizen. End of story.

NOT! Just like Your President, unless both his parents became US citizens BEFORE his birth, he is not a Natural Born Citizen....therefore just like Obama, He would not be eligable ...

[Arthur McGowan]

It’s not so simple.

[Non-Sequitur]

Rubio was born in the US, he’s a US citizen. End of story.

Haven't spent any time on Birther threads, have you?

[xzins]

You left out the “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” part.

That is the interesting portion that many wish would go away.

However, by your definition that makes Anwar al Alwaki, Imam America-Hater, a US citizen qualified to be president.

The truth is, however, that he was born while his parents were here on a student visa.

IF Rubio’s parents were here as ex-patriots of Cuba, hoping to return to their country, and they did not seek citizenship, then Rubio is not what one would consider a “natural born” citizen according to the definition of that expression that is used by some, and perhaps may be correct.

The Marco Rubio bandwagen hasn’t yet left the station. There’s no point in taking hard and fast positions on a guy who is years away from a run for the presidency.

[Georgia Girl 2]

Yes Rubio is a “Born” Citizen not a “Natural Born Citizen”. There are about 4 classifications of citizen in the US. A “Natural Born Citizen” is born in the US of 2 US citizens. Hence Obama who for some still unknown reason is not eligible to be the President has been allowed to reign over us for 2 years now. Bobby Jindal is also not eligible to run for President because his mother had only been in this country for 5 mos when he was born.

So actually Lou its not the end of the conversation. you need to bone up on the definition of “citizen”.

[melancholy]

Rubio was born in the US, he’s a US citizen. End of story.

WOW! Reminds me of algore gesturing emphatically and stating: Global Warming is a fact, science is settled!!

No offense. It's just the emphatic "End of story." that I consider endless.

Thanks to the communist media and 0b0z0's allies, we are ruled by a de facto non-American, evidenced by his deeds.

[FreeAtlanta]

I think their question has to do with Article 1, section 2.

[paraleaglenm]

While an alien must prove his 'good character' by conduct and deeds under the guest nation's jurisdiction, his nationality is controlled by his home nation's jurisdiction, i.e., country of allegiance. Any children born on U.S. soil to this alien inherit his home allegiance and are under that country's jurisdiction and protection. This is proven by an unlawful creation of a dual national if soil citizenship conflicts with inherited blood (jus sanguinis) citizenship. Once the alien father naturalizes, all minor children are also naturalized, and subsequent children are 'natural born citizens' of the United States. This also supports no need for soil (jus solis) citizenship for children. From the first 1790 Naturalization Act to the current 1300 pages of revisions to the Alien and Nationality Act, plus the 1952 Immigration and Nationality Act . . . there is no Right of Citizenship by Soil Birth. In every case (except the Foundling provision) at least one parent must be a U.S. citizen. Our modern misconception of 'soil birth citizenship' (jus solis) is solely from the courts, deciding English common law, vis a' vis 'natural born subject,' determines who is a U.S. citizen. This is fallacious conclusion of law, as well as being unconstitutional per Art I, Sec 8. Nowhere in U.S. law is the English feudal law codified or copied. However, Vattel's 'Law of Nations,' §§ 212, 215, and 220 are clearly evident as followed authority. Therefore, Barack Obama is not a natural born citizen, but a citizen by statutory provision through the mother. Marco Rubio is a natural born citizen . . . of that I am fairly certain short of proof to the contrary that at age 44, the father Mario had been naturalized within liberal Cuban exile naturalization provisions. Congress has plenary powers over naturalization law and issues of that law . . . the courts have made unconstitutional 'revisions' and our nation is suffering for it, through illegal immigration and an ineligible president with foreign allegiances and influences from birth.

[Diggity]

That still doesn’t qualify him. If his parents were not citizens then he can not be President.

[Scanian]

You left out the part that the founders cared about: “Child of citizen parents.”

Rubio has failed to show that his parents were naturalized before he was born.

Besides that, Cuba claims his surviving parent(mom) and Marco himself as citizens, which would make him a dual citizen.

Rubio has been very coy about running on the GOP ticket. Reason? He knows he has an eligibility problem. And WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF ELIGIBILITY CONTROVERSIES!

And don’t think the ‘rats won’t be all over him if he tried to run. They will make everything we said or did about O’Bummer look mild.

I was one of Marco’s earliest supporters against Crist for the Senate but the Senate and the presidency are two very different things.