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To: Lou Budvis
“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” 14th Amendment.
Rubio was born in the US, he’s a US citizen. End of story.
Help me out here. What is the intent and effect of the qualifier "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" on "All persons born or naturalized in the United States".

13 posted on 11/05/2010 10:40:29 PM PDT by Ron/GA
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To: Ron/GA

The “subject to the jurisdiction” appears to refer to the children born to diplomats of foreign countries who are in the US. See also: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001401——000-.html


Can anyone name one single case that holds that mere birth citizenship does not allow a person to be President? or one section of the US code or its regulations? Just one thing that backs up this notion that people who are citizens by birth are somehow different than natural born citizens for the purposes of becoming President?


38 posted on 11/06/2010 12:04:45 AM PDT by Lou Budvis (Refudiate 0bama '12)
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To: Ron/GA
Help me out here. What is the intent and effect of the qualifier "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" on "All persons born or naturalized in the United States".

This is to make sure that the children of US citizens are to be considered US citizens regardless of where they were born.

Such as children born of US military families stationed overseas. Or the children born of US citizens who were working/vacationing/whatever overseas at the time of their child's birth.

Sinch the parents were still subject to US jurisdiction... their children are US citizens.

53 posted on 11/06/2010 4:07:53 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Ron/GA

It means kids of illegals are not citizens.


61 posted on 11/06/2010 4:31:05 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Republics are created by the virtue, public spirit, and intelligence of the citizens. Joseph Story)
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To: Ron/GA
Help me out here. What is the intent and effect of the qualifier "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" on "All persons born or naturalized in the United States".

It has to do with foreign diplomats living/serving in the United States. Diplomats are not "subject to the jurisdiction" of the US so any of their children who are born in the US are not US citizens by virtue of being born here.

154 posted on 11/07/2010 7:29:48 PM PST by Jess79
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To: Ron/GA
Help me out here. What is the intent and effect of the qualifier "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" on "All persons born or naturalized in the United States".

To exclude foreign diplomats.

193 posted on 07/20/2011 7:02:46 AM PDT by Sloth (If a tax break counts as "spending" then every time I don't rob a bank should be a "deposit.")
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