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Confidence In The U.S. Will Collapse And Change Will Come With Alarming Speed
The Business Insider ^ | 11-5-2010 | John Browne, EuroPac

Posted on 11/05/2010 8:53:14 PM PDT by blam

Confidence In The U.S. Will Collapse And Change Will Come With Alarming Speed

John Browne, EuroPac
Nov. 5, 2010, 4:41 PM

This week, desperation became palpable at the Fed. In both the formulaic statement that accompanied its FOMC policy decision and Chairman Ben Bernanke's unusual (and clumsy) Washington Post op-ed follow up, the guardians of our currency expressed grave disappointment at the slow pace of US economic recovery and emphasized the continued threat of deflation. The Fed is now pledging to defeat this recession using any monetary means necessary. Unfortunately, their embrace threatens to smother our economy.

Despite its paternalistic rhetoric, the Fed really has just a few simple goals: allow for the perpetual expansion of the federal deficit, push up stock prices to create the illusion of wealth, and stimulate consumer spending. To do this, the Fed will hold interest rates near zero for the foreseeable future, and will buy some $600 billion of US Treasury debt by April of next year. Per capita, the commitment to quantitative easing comes to almost $2,000 per American. What's more, if this program fails to pull the economy out of recession, the Fed stands ready to up the ante. This amounts to little more than gambling; but instead of using their own accounts, the central bankers are wagering the nation's savings.

Having already committed $1.7 trillion in the first round of quantitative easing, the Fed is rolling the dice once again - despite ample evidence that their costly remedy won't work.

According to the Fed's own analysis, the US economy continues to disappoint, despite the massive QE-1 cash injection. Given the poor fundamentals: rising unemployment, plummeting house prices, and falling stock prices, it should come as no surprise that consumer confidence is low and spending continues to lag.

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1 posted on 11/05/2010 8:53:17 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Where is the constitutional authority for these idiots to attempt to manipulate the economy ?


2 posted on 11/05/2010 8:59:21 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Nuke the corrupt commie bastards to HELL!!)
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To: blam
According to the Fed's own analysis, the US economy continues to disappoint, despite the massive QE-1 cash injection.

Maybe because I haven't received any of it. If I had it, I'd spend it.

3 posted on 11/05/2010 9:01:10 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (Had God not driven man from the Garden of Eden the Sierra Club surely would have.)
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To: Inyo-Mono

It is time to turn cash into hard assets.


4 posted on 11/05/2010 9:04:50 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: blam
The things that need to be done to stimulate the economy, the Fed is powerless to do: namely, cut taxes, cut spending and cut regulation. The only thing they know how to do is manipulate the money supply. It reminds me of a sad but funny episode from my younger days. My wife and I owned an old Honda Civic that was having big problems with starting and backfiring. I replaced every ignition component I could think of: plugs, points, condenser, coil and distributor cap. No dice.

"I think it's the carburetor," said my wife.

"It can't be the carburetor," I stubbornly replied.

"Why can't it be the carburetor?" she inquired.

"Because," I boldly asserted, "I can't fix a carburetor."

5 posted on 11/05/2010 9:09:37 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Where is the constitutional authority for these idiots to attempt to manipulate the economy ?

Well, that depends on where you stand on delegation of powers (I think it's unconstitutional).

Congress has the (sole) power to coin money and regulate the value thereof, and also to emit bills of credit.

These powers were delegated in 1913 to the Federal Reserve.

But prior to 1913, the money question was the #1 or #2 question in most Presidential elections, and between the parties.

Congress, using its power to regulate the value of money and to emit bills of credit, was constantly manipulating what we now call "the economy", even though, then as now, they were idiots.

So, the authority to do these things IS in the constitution, except it is supposed to be exercised by idiots who stand for election every two years rather than by idiots who we do not control.

6 posted on 11/05/2010 9:12:37 PM PDT by Jim Noble (It's the tyranny, stupid!)
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To: Jim Robinson

There is none.

I’ve not seen any basis for the government to do much beyond manage its own money, which it only possesses temporarily while it does the people’s work.

Jumped track, eh?


7 posted on 11/05/2010 9:14:35 PM PDT by One Name
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To: Blood of Tyrants
"It is time to turn cash into hard assets."

Thats for sure. I've been buying food.

NIA Projects Future U.S. Food Price Increases

8 posted on 11/05/2010 9:16:17 PM PDT by blam
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Hard assets like food, guns, ammo, water purifer, household items, toilet paper, extra shoes, good clothes....

My Preparedness manual can be download at:

http://www.mediafire.com/?ars5bsi2p6foery


9 posted on 11/05/2010 9:17:36 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Jim Robinson

Congress gave them the power to discount paper in the enabling legislation of the Fed. That tool used in sufficient size will certainly affect the economy.

“1 Paragraph 1 as amended June 21, 1917.

1 “Upon the indorsement of any of its member banks, which shall be deemed a waiver of demand, notice and protest by such bank as to its own indorsement exclusively, any Federal reserve bank may discount notes, drafts, and bills of exchange arising out of actual commercial transactions; that is, notes, drafts, and bills of exchange issued or drawn for agricultural, industrial, or commercial purposes, or the proceeds of which have been used, or are to be used, for such purposes, the Federal Reserve Board to have the right to determine or define the character of the paper thus eligible for discount, within the meaning of this Act. Nothing in this Act contained shall be construed to prohibit such notes, drafts, and bills of exchange, secured by staple agricultural products, or other goods, wares, or merchandise from being’ eligible for such discount; but such definition shall not include notes, drafts, or bills covering merely investments or issued or drawn for the purpose of carrying or trading in stocks, bonds, or other investment securities, except bonds and notes of the Government of the United States. Notes, drafts, and bills admitted to discount under the terms of this paragraph must have a maturity at the time of discount of not more than ninety days, exclusive of days of grace: Provided, That notes, drafts, and bills drawn or issued for agricultural purposes or based on live stock and having a maturity not exceeding six months, exclusive of days of grace, may be discounted in an amount to be limited to a percentage of the assets of the Federal reserve bank, to be ascertained and fixed by the Federal Reserve Board.”

http://chestofbooks.com/finance/banking/Organized-Banking/Powers-Of-Federal-Reserve-Banks.html


10 posted on 11/05/2010 9:26:27 PM PDT by Pelham (Islam, the mortal enemy of the free world)
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To: Kartographer

Thank you for providing this information.


11 posted on 11/05/2010 9:26:36 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: blam

12 posted on 11/05/2010 9:36:45 PM PDT by retrogo
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To: Pelham; Jim Noble

Where is the constitutional authority for the congress to invent powers they don’t have?

They may have the power to mint the coin and borrow money, but not print $trillions out of thin air.


13 posted on 11/05/2010 9:38:19 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Nuke the corrupt commie bastards to HELL!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

They didn’t use constitutional authority to cause the recession and they won’t use it for the ‘recovery’ oops, I meant total collapse.


14 posted on 11/05/2010 9:40:41 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Conflict is inevitable; Combat is an option. Train for the fight.)
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To: Kartographer

Thank you, sir, for the excellent resource.


15 posted on 11/05/2010 9:41:40 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
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To: Blood of Tyrants
It is time to turn cash into hard assets.

The sad thing is that hard assets - like stored food, metals, etc. have such little economic multiplier effect. The result of such a movement is a race to the economic floor.

16 posted on 11/05/2010 9:43:14 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: glorgau
There is no such as an economic 'multiplier effect', that is Kenyesian economic rhetoric.

Stop putting inflation into the system (boom) and it will recover, after first going through deflation (bust).

The longer the 'boom' the longer the recovery' (bust)is going to take.

17 posted on 11/05/2010 9:49:08 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: blam

The FED has one job, create a stable price level, ie a stable framework for the economy. They can not do anything else. Putting more green pieces of paper in circulation does not create any more land, labor or capital [TOOLS].

So far Bernanke has done a good job and there has been no major deflation ala 1930 to 1933. And while there are inflationary worries, the price level has generally been flat. So he has done his job, but he must be alert to inflation beginning.

The way out is to stimulate production via tax reductions and reduced government regulation. Clearly we have the wrong crowd in the White House and maybe the Senate for what this situation requires.


18 posted on 11/05/2010 9:51:05 PM PDT by JLS (Democrats: People who won't even let you enjoy an unseasonably warm winter day.)
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To: blam
The only reason at this time for the Fed to buy $600 Billion in Treasury bonds is to give the government $600 Billion more to play with. Sounds self evident, but the real question is: what will the government do with that money? Answer: what have they always done? They've wasted almost every cent of it, and will continue to do so. This $600 Billion in new money for the government to spend will do nothing to stimulate the economy, since consumers are tapped out and can't borrow any more, and business isn't hiring or spending on capex. It will, however, erode the dollar, especially since the Fed has signaled unmistakeably that they are going to print dollars until either the economy recovers or the currency is destroyed, whichever comes first.

Why would Ben Bernanke do this? Because he has no choice. The Fed isn't a free agent any more, if they ever where. Tim Geithner and Goldman Sachs are calling the shots, and they don't give a rat's rear end about America.

19 posted on 11/05/2010 9:53:31 PM PDT by Batrachian (Celebrating 10 years with Free Republic.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I don’t know that Congress is inventing a power that they don’t have. They have the power to regulate banks, and banks by their nature create credit money. When that’s done by your local bank you don’t notice it, when it’s done in the aggregate by an entire banking system the numbers get real big.

The “out of thin air” appearance is what happens when the Fed discounts Treasury paper. It exchanges liquid money for illiquid Treasury paper. It is more a change-of-state situation than a creation-out-of-nothing.

What people rarely understand is that the problem originates with Congress raising the debt limit. The national debt can be looked at as the largest measure of the money supply. Raising the debt increases the money supply. The Fed simply determines how much of that money supply should be in liquid money versus illiquid Treasury paper. Before there was a Fed this was done by the uncoordinated actions of individual banks who would issue money against Treasury paper. Sometimes they even printed their own currency.


20 posted on 11/05/2010 9:54:09 PM PDT by Pelham (Islam, the mortal enemy of the free world)
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