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RINOs behind defeat of Tea Party candidates (Vanity)

Posted on 11/04/2010 9:18:47 AM PDT by JimWayne

Don't blame the Democrats for the defeat of Christine O'Doneell and Sharon Angle. The RINOs have worked hard and worked WITH the Dims to make sure that the Tea Party candidates would not win.

In Delaware, it was Karl Rove who opposed O'Donnell. In Nevada, it was a state level RINO who supported the Democrat. In Alaska, RINOs have done everything to prevent Joe Miller from winning. You can be sure that Ken Buck must have been done in by RINOs like Karl Rove.

A suggestion to hit back at them - deny RINOs the right to post on FR. If anyone brings up the claim that it is better to support a "winnable" anti-life and pro-spending candidate instead of a Tea Party candidate, how about showing zero tolerance and kicking them out instantly even if they have been around for 10 years. Surely, GOP officials use FR to their benefit. Why not pay back in their own coin? If they don't support us, why should we support them?


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To: JimWayne
kicking them out instantly

Do you have a list of folks you would like to see purged?

Maybe if they're just semi-questionable we could just have a yellow star sewn on their jackets or something.

21 posted on 11/04/2010 9:32:16 AM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: JimWayne

Riiiiiight, Jim. That’ll work. Will you be the arbiter of such swift and subjective justice?

Will you suggest I be banned for breaking the news to you that Christine O’Donnell was an awful, awful candidate? (Note: This is not to say that Castle or Coons was a good candidate.) Just because COD said a few platitudes that we agreed with doesn’t mean there was more than half a brain in her head.

While I think we share the same cynicism with our Federal government and just what will change now, I think your idea of purging FR is a tad bit ridiculous.


22 posted on 11/04/2010 9:32:36 AM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: JimWayne

Riiiiiight, Jim. That’ll work. Will you be the arbiter of such swift and subjective justice?

Will you suggest I be banned for breaking the news to you that Christine O’Donnell was an awful, awful candidate? (Note: This is not to say that Castle or Coons was a good candidate.) Just because COD said a few platitudes that we agreed with doesn’t mean there was more than half a brain in her head.

While I think we share the same cynicism with our Federal government and just what will change now, I think your idea of purging FR is a tad bit ridiculous.


23 posted on 11/04/2010 9:32:36 AM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
I believe FR is a Conservative web site, it is not a Republican web site.

WE HAVE A WINNER! (in my opinion)

Thank you.

24 posted on 11/04/2010 9:33:34 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: SENTINEL

“I’ll give you an “A” for attitude.”

I’ll give him an “A” too. “A”lmost sane. Almost.


25 posted on 11/04/2010 9:34:58 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: JimWayne
Wrong. The goal has to be to educate, not intimidate. You cannot bring a person to your way of thinking if you refuse to talk to them. The simple and unpleasant fact is that there are not enough hard core conservatives to get a majority. In many places yes, but not in the big blue states like CA, NY, NJ and Illinois. If you reflexively drive out anyone who doesn't think like you on every issue FR will get very lonely. And there will be very few conservatives in congress.

I need only point out that at the time of the first Tea Party in 1773 Benjamin Franklin (you know that guy on the $100.00) was a royalist. He thought compromise and negotiation were the best solutions to the colonies problems. It wasn't until after the fighting started in 1774 that he realized compromise was impossible because the King was negotiating in bad faith. He became on of the most influential members of the continental congress and the greatest of patriots.

I will draw the line between the liberal troll, and the establishment conservative. You fight the first and argue with the latter. An argument is designed to reach a point of understanding. A fight is just shouting down the other participant until they go away. Ban the trolls, not because they aren't conservative enough, but because they are jerks.

This fight is just beginning. The 21st century Tea Party, like the Tea Party of 1773, are ahead of the curve. Sam Adams and John Hancock may have started a revolution, but they needed late adopters like George Washington, John Adams and Ben Franklin to win it.
26 posted on 11/04/2010 9:35:03 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: JimWayne

the best way to debunk poor ideas is to air them out. Kind of like the idea of trying to gag people with ideas that don’t agree with your own. Let them post. if the ideas are rubbish they may even learn why.


27 posted on 11/04/2010 9:35:11 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: JimWayne
There was no RINO effect in Colorado. Buck was simply a bad candidate who couldn't stay on message and let the media draw him into sidebar debates about abortion and gays, where he made gaffes. No Republican I'm aware of supported Bennet, who was himself a weak candidate and should have lost.

I will criticize the party in one respect. A month out Buck had a solid lead in the media polls. The left began carpet bombing us with Buck attack ads, ridiculous, over the top stuff. But it went largely unanswered. We really could have used some of that money the NRSC dumped into California and it might have made a difference in what proved a very tight race.

28 posted on 11/04/2010 9:36:17 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: JimWayne

Because the point of this site (as I understand it) is to:

1) share information and analysis about the news

2) coordinate activism locally (and nationally)

3) raise awareness about specific government actions that get glossed over elsewhere (going through the full text of the amnesty bill for example)

4) place for people to talk about various topics (religon, pets, prayer for loved ones, personal news, science news, medical news, history, tv shows etc.)

This site shouldn’t try to be an echo chamber and as long as you avoid serious trolling, profanity, racism, personal attacks, or threats of violence you should be allowed to post.

People have issues with candidates sometimes you can’t hate them for it. From what I’ve seen everyone on this site piled on Murkowski for what she did. Angle shot herself in the foot a few times with some of her remarks (hispanics look like asians). O’Donnell has some legitimate issues that raise red flags and her campaign was less than professional (”I’m not a witch...”).

Yea sure if Karl Rove comes out and identifies his FR screen name go ahead flame away at him but otherwise chillout and focus on making sure the GOP stays on target and doesn’t sell out (like they did the last time).


29 posted on 11/04/2010 9:36:37 AM PDT by Eyes Unclouded ("The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." -George Carlin)
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To: JimWayne

Because the point of this site (as I understand it) is to:

1) share information and analysis about the news

2) coordinate activism locally (and nationally)

3) raise awareness about specific government actions that get glossed over elsewhere (going through the full text of the amnesty bill for example)

4) place for people to talk about various topics (religon, pets, prayer for loved ones, personal news, science news, medical news, history, tv shows etc.)

This site shouldn’t try to be an echo chamber and as long as you avoid serious trolling, profanity, racism, personal attacks, or threats of violence you should be allowed to post.

People have issues with candidates sometimes you can’t hate them for it. From what I’ve seen everyone on this site piled on Murkowski for what she did. Angle shot herself in the foot a few times with some of her remarks (hispanics look like asians). O’Donnell has some legitimate issues that raise red flags and her campaign was less than professional (”I’m not a witch...”).

Yea sure if Karl Rove comes out and identifies his FR screen name go ahead flame away at him but otherwise chillout and focus on making sure the GOP stays on target and doesn’t sell out (like they did the last time).


30 posted on 11/04/2010 9:36:43 AM PDT by Eyes Unclouded ("The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." -George Carlin)
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To: Izzy Dunne

that attitude is seen on this site more and more...and it’ll just prove what the democrats say, if you don’t agree 100% with the right wingers, get out. The rude and pure nasty comments on this site and the my way is the only way is why people are leaving.


31 posted on 11/04/2010 9:36:49 AM PDT by Jewels1091
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To: JimWayne
deny RINOs the right to post on FR.

In this bitterly divided conservative world we live in, the use of the term "RINO" is applied regularly to various politicians, pundits, organizations, and Freepers disqualifying them as conservative.

In order to help define who is and is not a RINO, I have compiled a list from various Freeper sources that will hopefully lend guidance to the novice Freeper that may be confused, or the previously deeply conservative Freeper that now finds themselves or someone they support, labeled as RINO.

This is by no means a definitive list, and I hope other Freepers will help expand it.

You are a RINO, if you claim you are a Republican and :

You have been a Democrat..... appeared with, worked on legislation with, or agreed with any Democrat on any Dem sponsored issue, at any time.

You support anything besides closing the border and deporting illegals in the immigration debate.

You support any gun regulations

You have ever addressed homosexuals, enjoyed a homosexual's music, or acknowledged homosexuals in any manner. Support of civil unions is undeniably RINO.

You are pro-choice, have ever been pro-choice, supported legislation that allows any abortions, supported anyone that is in any way pro-choice.

You did not support letting the economy collapse in 2008.

You have ever been diplomatic with Muslims when addressing them.

You have ever advised caution in response to a knee jerk conservative issue.

You have ever resigned from an elected office.

You do not believe China is a dire and existential threat.

You believe the earth has warmed, not that humans caused it, just that it has warmed.

You support public transportation, hybrids, electric cars, CFLs, or any other green thing.

You support any environmental regulations.

You support any taxes except tariffs.

You support having the Federal Reserve in charge of monetary policy.

You support free trade, particularly trade agreements and the WTO.

You believe job losses are not due to cheap offshore labor.

You believe procuring federal money for your local area is normal.

You support the right of Presidents to appoint whom they wish as judges.

You donate to the Republican Party, especially the RNC.

You are from the Northeast

You think extending unemployment benefits is the right thing to do.

You are an elected Republican and you did not:

Refuse any earmarks.

Cut SS and Medicare.

Freeze spending.

Cut the budget deficit.

Cut the national debt.

Eliminate the DOE, DHS, Education.

Pass voter ID legislation.

Close the border.

Open everywhere to oil and NG drilling.

Attack Democrats loudly and daily.

Call for Obama's impeachment.

You are an elected Republican and you did:

Say anything nice about Obama or a Democrat

Sign any legislation that might be misused by liberals at a later date.

Vote for TARP.

Get elected in a liberal state.

Vote for or endorse NCLB and Part D.

Support any home ownership incentives.

You are... or support, vote for, agree with, endorse or were an advisor to:

John McCain

Mitt Romney

Rudy Guiliani

Mike Huckabee

Sarah Palin

Mitch McConnell

Fred Thompson

Lindsey Graham

George Bush

George HW Bush

Haley Barbour

Bob Dole

Newt Gingrich

Trent Lott

Mitch McConnell

Tom Delay

Schwartzenegger

Rick Perry

Kay Baily Hutchinson

John Kyl

John Boehner

Chris Christie

Scott Brown

Scott Thune

Paul Ryan

Vitter

Lisa Murkowski

Ron Paul

Marco Rubio

Meg Whitman

Carly Fiorina

Karl Rove

Condoleeza Rice

Dick Cheney

Laura Bush

Ann Coulter

Hannity

Rush

Glenn Beck

Don Rumsfeld

Harriet Meiers

Dick Armey

Olympia Snowe

Susan Collins

Darrell Issa

John Kasich

Mike DeWine

The NRA

The Chamber of Commerce

The Heritage Foundation

The NFIB

(This is just a short list...for noobies, it is safe to assume that anyone that is a Republican is a RINO, except for Jim Demint, Jeff Sessions, and Michelle Bachmann and you can't really be sure about them....DeMint endorsed Romney for instance).

Also for noobs, remember this. Circumstances surrounding a RINO's depravity are not to be considered....re: George Bush is a RINO because he called Islam a ROP, although at his hands, we killed more Muslim fanatics than any other time in modern history, removed the Taliban from power, and deep sixed Saddam... or.... because he proposed TARP even though he believed without it our economy would crash...or....Sarah Palin is a RINO because she quit as Governor of Alaska, even though lib operatives were destroying her financially.

If you are still confused, you can always consider anyone popular enough to be elected (besides a Democrat) statewide in a liberal state, or nationally, a RINO. Being able to raise large sums of money is another tell tale sign of a RINO, as is public service longer than eight years.

Most important is what to do with RINOs!

RINOs should not be allowed to post on FR.

If an identified RINO is running against a Dem, you should not vote...unless it's for a third party nobody or the Democrat opponent.

When considering whether to vote for a candidate and you cannot decide if they are a RINO or not, the safest thing is to not vote either.

This means that you will never allow a pernicious RINO to subvert our nation sometime in the future because of your vote. Democrats will be solely to blame then for our demise, which will happen more rapidly and usher in a conservative Golden Age.

I hope this primer will help Freepers and conservatives identify RINOs and treat them accordingly!

32 posted on 11/04/2010 9:38:13 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: JimWayne

It seems there may be a hitch in your hypothesis. Who is the one to determine what defines a RINO? Given there is really no concrete list of what the Republican platform is other then the ambiguous list of smaller government, increased security, and less intrusion, very few can agree on what that actually entails. The tighter that list is defined the fewer there will be that can be included under the Republican banner.

That, in essence is the struggle that the Republican Party has today. Even organized religions cannot come to a strict common ground on homosexuals, gays, or abortion that all within those religions can agree on let alone act in a cohesive manner on.

We could end up with such a small number of who we believe should be included in the Party that we are totally nullified as a group.


33 posted on 11/04/2010 9:38:49 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: humblegunner

Perhaps the star could be programmed by the Admins to show up next to the screen name in each post by anyone who has shown “RINO-like” tendencies. That will allow all the ‘correct-thinking’ people to immediately know who has been flirting with ‘crime-think’.

Seriously, though, the proposal in the above ‘article’ is something I would expect from those on the far left. I am more than a little disappointed that a person who, by virtue of his membership at FreeRepublic, purports to be a conservative and a patriot, would come up with such a scheme.


34 posted on 11/04/2010 9:39:16 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: JimWayne

I don’t know, maybe the FREE in Free Republic?


35 posted on 11/04/2010 9:40:06 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: Jewels1091

That is what a liberal would do: silence those with whom (s)he disagrees.

We’re better than that. But it does mean we have to listen to stupidities.


36 posted on 11/04/2010 9:40:17 AM PDT by studly hungwell (Mohammad and Marx: Spreading misery and death wherever their ideas go.)
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To: JimWayne

How about you show us your hit list?


37 posted on 11/04/2010 9:40:50 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: JimWayne
You're worse than Hitler!
38 posted on 11/04/2010 9:40:53 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: JimWayne

I think that’s pretty much an ongoing process here.


39 posted on 11/04/2010 9:41:03 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: JimWayne

Below is from George Washington’s Farewell Address!

Warns against the party system.

“It serves to distract the Public Councils, and
enfeeble the Public Administration....
agitates the Community with ill-founded jealousies
and false alarms; kindles the animosity of one....
against another....

it opens the door to foreign influence and corruption.
thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected
to the policy and will of another.”


40 posted on 11/04/2010 9:42:22 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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