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The Time for Term Limits Is Now
Fox News ^ | November 1, 2010 | Michael Goodwin

Posted on 11/01/2010 1:20:45 PM PDT by Pete

Across the land, the cry is heard: Throw the bums out! The people are prepared to do exactly that on Tuesday, but there's a catch. There's little to stop today's insurgent from becoming tomorrow's bum. Or, as a pessimist once said, many reformers take office to do good and stay to do well.

Take heart, optimists, for there is an antidote to the corrupting disease of permanent poweritis. Term limits. They are a blunt instrument and they work.

They do it by forcing the turnover that the power of incumbency too often thwarts. By using gerrymandering, earmarks, favors for contributors and election laws to thwart challengers, too many incumbents get comfortable in office and make keeping it their mission.

Public service then become private service, which helps to explain how so many lifetime pols leave office filthy rich -- emphasis on filthy.

Power corrupts, so prevention is the best medicine.

Presidents are limited to two terms by the Constitution's 22nd Amendment, passed in 1951, to stop another FDR, who shattered the tradition of two terms by winning four.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: teaparty; termlimits
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November 2 is not the apex of the tea party movement. It is a point on the low end of an exponential curve. Term limits will be one of the next battles. Why? Because it is a "bedrock" issue. What I mean by that is that the term limit issue is about how our federal government works rather than who is sitting in what seat. The 10th amendment movement in the States is also a bedrock issue.

Both issues are about realigning the power structure in our country consistent with the founders' intentions. This work is going on now and the mainstream media and political elites don't see it because they are too busy worrying about who gets to pick committee chairmanships. If you want to see it, try entering Term limits or 10th amendment into Google news. You will find news stories from across the country seemingly unrelated. But remember, the Tea Party is a decentralized system with no head so the activities taking place are not easily seen let alone connected unless you look.

1 posted on 11/01/2010 1:20:47 PM PDT by Pete
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To: Pete

Why would a bunch of career politicians vote for a law that would end their careers?

That’s like wanting them to pass a law limiting the amount of money they spend and collect during elections.

Or wanting them to pass a healthcare bill that includes themselves.


2 posted on 11/01/2010 1:23:22 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Pete

The only term limits that work occur at the ballot box.


3 posted on 11/01/2010 1:23:57 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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To: Pete
No sooner had I posted this article that I saw this one posted just a few articles down on FR.

10th Amendment Rally For State of Independence

What's next is already here. Let the media and political elites chew on the election results. We are moving on. There is work to do.

4 posted on 11/01/2010 1:24:18 PM PDT by Pete (29thday.org Exponential problems require exponential solutions)
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To: Tzimisce
Why would a bunch of career politicians vote for a law that would end their careers?

Nobody said it was going to be easy. What if instead of 10 tea party candidates, we had 50 in 2012 and 100 in 2014. Things can change.

5 posted on 11/01/2010 1:25:52 PM PDT by Pete (29thday.org Exponential problems require exponential solutions)
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To: Pete
Elections are the only term limits we need.

Otherwise, you're just interfering with my desire to vote for the candidate of my choice.

6 posted on 11/01/2010 1:26:30 PM PDT by gdani
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To: Pete; Liberty Valance

“They are a blunt instrument and they work.”

The time for finesse and nuance is over.


7 posted on 11/01/2010 1:26:52 PM PDT by Brucifer (Proud member of the Double Secret Reloading Underground.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Term limits turned out to be bad in California. I am sorry I voted for it. The state senators and assemblymen(women) we have now are much worse than we had before. Willie Brown was not as bad as the buffoons we have now. It pains me to say it.


8 posted on 11/01/2010 1:29:19 PM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: Pete
Nobody said it was going to be easy. What if instead of 10 tea party candidates, we had 50 in 2012 and 100 in 2014. Things can change.

I didn't say it was impossible.

I'm just reminding everyone of the obvious.
9 posted on 11/01/2010 1:30:02 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The only term limits that work occur at the ballot box.

You are correct my friend. I have always been 100% AGAINST term limits. Term limits are a restriction on ME, and who I can vote for. It’s that simple.


10 posted on 11/01/2010 1:30:15 PM PDT by Paisan
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To: Tzimisce
For those of you interested in this issue, here is a good place to start (it was a 5-4, note who dissented).

From Wikipedia, U.S. Term Limits, Inc. v. Thornton, 514 U.S. 779 (1995)[1], was a case in which the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that states cannot impose qualifications for prospective members of the U.S. Congress stricter than those specified in the Constitution. The decision invalidated the Congressional term limit provisions of 23 states. The parties to the case were U.S. Term Limits, a non-profit advocacy group, and the politician Ray Thornton, among others.

11 posted on 11/01/2010 1:32:55 PM PDT by Pete (29thday.org Exponential problems require exponential solutions)
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To: Pete

Scotus has ruled that states may not term limit Congressmen nor Senators. The ruling stinks.


12 posted on 11/01/2010 1:35:49 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Great nations are born Stoic and die Epicurean.)
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To: Paisan

If things were ideal and voters truly were involved then there would be no career politicians, unfortunately it’s not the case. Since those people who do not believe in term limits felt so strongly, why is that bloomberg who cancelled term limits, now changed it back. Career politicians come about from the lazy masses. Limit elected officials to ten years, if they can’t get it done. They will never get it.


13 posted on 11/01/2010 1:36:14 PM PDT by DWC (historian)
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To: Pete
Things I'd like to see:

1. Term limits for all elected office holders. Preferably no more than 2 terms. Maximum 4 years per term.

2. Pension and benefit plans abolished for all elected office holders.

3. All state and federal government employee unions outlawed.

14 posted on 11/01/2010 1:36:20 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (11/02/10 - What will tomorrow bring? The resurgence of freedom or the dearth of tyranny?)
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To: Pete
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15 posted on 11/01/2010 1:38:01 PM PDT by baddog 219
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To: OB1kNOb
2. Pension and benefit plans abolished for all elected office holders.

I think this alone would help a lot. Apply it to all elected office holders and their staff. Then, perhaps, you'd get people who do a stint as service then return to their real jobs.

16 posted on 11/01/2010 1:43:38 PM PDT by JustSurrounded (Repeal it all.)
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To: JustSurrounded

Must do something about these “staffers” who run things and just rotate among those in power.


17 posted on 11/01/2010 1:51:41 PM PDT by satan (Plumbing new depths of worthlessness on a daily basis.)
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To: JustSurrounded
Then, perhaps, you'd get people who do a stint as service then return to their real jobs.

That's the exact desired result I'm looking for and (I believe) what our founding fathers meant to be done.

18 posted on 11/01/2010 1:54:16 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (11/02/10 - What will tomorrow bring? The resurgence of freedom or the dearth of tyranny?)
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To: gdani

Do you feel the same way about the position of president? I’m all for term limits.


19 posted on 11/01/2010 2:14:58 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Not true. Half the population pay NO taxes, so they vote for whoever gives them the most. It’s the biggest reason for pork.


20 posted on 11/01/2010 2:30:13 PM PDT by gunner03
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