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Trade war heating up . . .
1 posted on 10/19/2010 12:53:35 PM PDT by jhpigott
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Obama is out campaigning. Or is he playing golf?


2 posted on 10/19/2010 12:55:51 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup
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We have plenty within our own borders. Only problem is restarting the mines that were shut down. Even assuming you got government and regulations completely out of the picture and had the capital to do the job it would take at least a year to restart the mines and even longer to begin production. By which time China can jack up its own exports and ruin the market.


3 posted on 10/19/2010 12:55:59 PM PDT by utherdoul
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Does this mean they will stop exporting lead paint in their toys?


4 posted on 10/19/2010 12:56:19 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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Let China do it. They’ll do it cheaper and we can concentrate on more important things!


5 posted on 10/19/2010 12:57:14 PM PDT by brownsfan (D - swift death of the republic, R - lingering death for the republic.)
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Better to find out now what their intentions are than during a war.

What the USA can’t do itself, time to start working with other major mining countries/allies like Australia to make some long-term deals.


6 posted on 10/19/2010 12:58:22 PM PDT by PGR88
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When will it dawn on our great leaders that it is beyond stupid to rely on Red China for anything important, including any product or raw material the lack of which could threaten national security, or our economic health.


7 posted on 10/19/2010 12:58:49 PM PDT by Will88
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Incredible how history repeats itself........Japan couldn’t get enough metal back in the ‘30’s....what happened?

My father-in-law, whom has since passed, was an Exec with Union Oil....everytime we would pass a rare earth mining op (name escapes me right now) on the way from Las Vegas to CA on I-15, he would say, Union used to operate that mine but the gd enviromentalists forced us to close it down...I had no idea of the significance of “Rare Earths”...I knew what they were....but, the Chinese are hoarding the elements and we are acting stupidly again re: extracting industry.

I pray for our country.


8 posted on 10/19/2010 1:00:22 PM PDT by Seeking the truth (0cents.com - Are you sick of Obama - visit this site!)
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Thank you Diane Feinstein, who did more than any other American to initiate the Desert Protection Act which shut down production of rare earth minerals from one of the world's largest deposits here in California.

Her husband is heavily invested in Chinese rare earth mining as well a gold mine adjacent the Chocolate Mountain Gunnery Range.

12 posted on 10/19/2010 1:02:08 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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I am tempted to question how well this works among generally open economies.

China still needs to sell this stuff.

The US and Japan still need to buy it.

What prevents third parties from buying through European fronts and such?

Granted that this will increase the cost to the end user... Which is probably the point.


15 posted on 10/19/2010 1:04:14 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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I think this is great news. It will finally force the West to face reality about enviro-maniacal restrictions on using our own resources. At least the Chinese are smart enough to put their society’s needs before those of the rest of the world.


16 posted on 10/19/2010 1:05:35 PM PDT by Bernard Marx (I donÂ’t trust the reasoning of anyone who writes then when they mean than.)
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Ahhhhhhhhhh - the inscrutable chinese:

China won’t block rare earth metals trade: Premier

* Source: Global Times
* [03:40 October 08 2010

http://business.globaltimes.cn/china-economy/2010-10/579704.html

Premier Wen Jiabao Wednesday responded to allegations the nation is blocking the exports of rare earth metals to Japan saying, “China has not and will not obstruct the trade of rare earths.”

China will ensure a sustainable supply of the resources, while still controlling the output, Wen said at the sixth China-EU Business Summit Wednesday in Brussels. China will not use rare earths as a bargaining tool, Wen said.


17 posted on 10/19/2010 1:08:54 PM PDT by epithermal
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Thanks jhpigott. There may be shortages of the minerals, and the Christmas season is rushing up on us -- a lot of electronics are made in China and sold worldwide.
China, which has been blocking shipments of crucial minerals to Japan for the last month, has now quietly halted shipments of some of those same materials to the United States and Europe... involving rare earth minerals that are crucial to manufacturing many advanced products, seems certain to further ratchet up already rising trade and currency tensions with the West. Until recently, China typically sought quick and quiet accommodations on trade issues. But the interruption in rare earth supplies is the latest sign from Beijing that Chinese officials are willing to use their growing economic muscle.

18 posted on 10/19/2010 1:08:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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No green jobs now


20 posted on 10/19/2010 1:12:43 PM PDT by goldendays (that)
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So, as the pot starts on its way to a boil, we, the frogs begin to feel some heat.

As I’ve been saying for the last 20 years, who controls the resources controls the world. The Chinese are busy raping then entire continent of Africa while they quietly build “friendly” political ties with other nations rich in needed resources and easily led into communism, such as Venezuela, through their friends, the Russians.


21 posted on 10/19/2010 1:14:49 PM PDT by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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This is a huge story.


25 posted on 10/19/2010 1:17:57 PM PDT by ColdOne (GOP. Gutless Old Politicians :^)).....Tolerance for thee but none for me)
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27 posted on 10/19/2010 1:20:44 PM PDT by PMAS
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Until recently, China typically sought quick and quiet accommodations on trade issues.

That was back when we had an American president.

Things are different now.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

31 posted on 10/19/2010 1:22:20 PM PDT by The Comedian (Don't run. You'll just die tired.)
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The Red Chinese don’t think there will be a backlash.


36 posted on 10/19/2010 1:31:54 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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Forget about getting those resources from Russia either. Russia has locked down its mineral resources tight, and will only export to CIS and SCO nations and countries like Venezuela and Nicaragua.


37 posted on 10/19/2010 1:32:54 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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China is not our friend. Neither is Obama.
41 posted on 10/19/2010 1:54:06 PM PDT by Armaggedon
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