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Not all 'crime guns' have been used in crimes
Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 13 October, 2010 | David Codrea

Posted on 10/14/2010 5:14:22 AM PDT by marktwain

One of the expressed concerns raised by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobaccco, Firearms and Explosives over the Korean surplus rifle dispute discussed in yesterday's column is to not add another source for "crime guns." Unsurprisingly, this is also one of the main arguments used to introduce restrictive new U.S. laws as a purported means of disarming Mexican narco-terrorists, as well as a centerpiece for New York City Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg's anti-your guns crusade.

It's used because it's a powerful term. "Crime gun" evokes a hardboiled detective recovering one from a crime scene, no doubt picking it up with a pencil through the trigger guard, or a white-coated CSI technician lining up recovered bullet striations under a microscope, all leading to the inevitable outing of the villain.

It was Col. Mustard with the .45 in the library.

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First, he explains how BATFE defines "crime gun":

"The parties agree that a 'crime gun' is defined as "any firearm that is illegally possessed, used in a crime, taken into police custody, or suspected by law enforcement officials of having been used in a crime."

His key observations from experience?

The key word in this definition is "taken into police custody." I have been a law enforcement officer for over thirty years and held positions up to the rank of Detective Commander. Only a very small portion of firearms that are taken into custody could possibly be considered a "crime gun."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; codrea; constitution; crime; examiner; gun
The very essence of the left is a lie.
1 posted on 10/14/2010 5:14:27 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

crime gun. the latest made up term made up by the anti gun crowd to evoke fear of an inanimate object. like assault weapon, saturday night special, cop killer bullets..


2 posted on 10/14/2010 5:24:41 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced, tattooed, pierced, harley hatin, meghan mccain luvin', smoker and pit bull owner..what?)
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To: marktwain

The “Left” is what is actually small ‘c’ communists.

Commies without the gulags and firing squads, or so they want us to think. Once they are in power, the gulags and firing squads will appear.

“Yes! We Can!!”


3 posted on 10/14/2010 5:25:15 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: marktwain

When I was involved with many street gangs I knew many gang members with guns. Only a very small percentage of those guns had ever been used in any crime. Most of the guns existed for the same reason non-gang members used hem for ... self-defense and mostly self-defense in their own home.

Repeatedly I’ve seen where police have recovered dozens of weapons in a raid. Only a very small percentage of those weapons are even suspected of being used in a crime. Repeatedly nanny pays to have guns turned in on a disarm-the-public day. Only a very small percentage of those weapons are even suspectd of being used in a crime.

Out of millions of people in the USA, the percentage of those who commit major crime is very small with a very small number of repeat offenders disproportionately committing most of the crimes.

Out of millions of weapons in the USA, a very small number of those weapons disproportionately are involved in most of the major crimes.


4 posted on 10/14/2010 5:25:40 AM PDT by spintreebob
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So, if my guns get stolen and they immediately apprehend the perp, then my stolen guns are considered “crime guns” and are then added into the BATF bogus numbers?


5 posted on 10/14/2010 5:41:35 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: spintreebob

When my brother went through his divorce, his wife got a judge to order that the police take custody of his gun collection until a hearing could he held on a TRO motion she filed. He collects antique shotguns and revolvers—some worth five figures. The hearing went in his favor and when he got the collection back, all had been handled and fired, but not cleaned. He was told by the police that they take a ballistic sample from every gun they take into custody to enter in the database and to check against crime data. Problem is, their handling and firing actually damaged a couple of the rarer pieces and thus destroyed their value.


6 posted on 10/14/2010 5:53:18 AM PDT by SirFishalot
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To: marktwain
"The very essence of the left is a lie." Exactly! We need to start talking about "Crime Politicians" in the same way, and THAT is no lie.
7 posted on 10/14/2010 5:53:58 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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I don’t want guns for hunting or common crime. I want them for political reasons. For defense against government. Period.


8 posted on 10/14/2010 6:02:10 AM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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To: SirFishalot
Problem is, their handling and firing actually damaged a couple of the rarer pieces and thus destroyed their value.

I hope he sued to recover damages.

9 posted on 10/14/2010 7:34:02 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberalism can be summed up thusly: someone craps their pants and we all have to wear diapers)
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To: spintreebob
A "crime gun" is any gun you have -- and they want to make it a crime for you to have it...
10 posted on 10/14/2010 8:06:55 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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