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Paladino calls gays 'dysfunctional'
Associated Press ^ | REUVEN FENTON and JEREMY OLSHAN

Posted on 10/10/2010 4:35:29 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

Carl Paladino says it’s not okay to be gay.

"There is nothing to be proud of in being a dysfunctional homosexual," the Republican gubernatorial candidate told a small Hasidic group at K’hal Adas Kasho synagogue in Williamsburg today.

"That's not how god created us, and that's not the example that we should be showing our children."

Paladino, who has made his opposition to the gay marriage and "the homosexual agenda" clear, went much further yesterday, to say children "would be much better off and much more successful getting married and raising a family" than being gay."

"And I don't want them to be brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality is an equally valid and successful option," he said. "It isn't."

The speech came just days after the suicide of a gay Rutgers student and an anti-gay gang attack in the Bronx.

His Democratic opponent, Andrew Cuomo, blasted the remarks as "stunning homophobia and a glaring disregard for basic equality."

A campaign spokesman said "These comments along with other views he has espoused make it clear that he is way out of the mainstream a

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To: manc
there is no homo gene like you said but then you say people are born a homo, get real.

No, it happens in response to the uterine environment, possible due to pollutants, chemicals, plastics that find their way into all of our bodies. Something affects the normal stages of sexual / brain development, somewhere around week 12 or so of pregnancy.

321 posted on 10/12/2010 12:34:30 AM PDT by Yaelle ( I donated double. We need FR running smoothly this fall. Join me.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Just watching Red Eye on Fox. My buddy Greg and the panel are attacking Palandino for his remarks.

Very disappointing. Too bad they didn't show pictures of the Gay Festival they have in San Francisco every year.
(Can't remember what it is called). Public nudity and disgusting sex acts in front of children.

Palandino has it pegged.

322 posted on 10/12/2010 12:44:23 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (My Rights are God given, not Obama approved...)
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To: Yaelle

wow..You sure have a lot of patience to deal with the vitriolic posts...

some people are so threatened by the discussion that all they do is start to describe sexual behaviors and rant...then if one is not so enraged they attack you personally as “pro gay”.


323 posted on 10/12/2010 6:40:59 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie ( Ok, Joke's over....Bring back Bush !)
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To: Yaelle
Seriously, homosexuality, the orientation to which you become naturally sexually aroused, YOUR gender or the OPPOSITE gender, does come hard wired from the womb.

So using that argument, in the same way, some people are also hardwired to become pedophiles. The fact that it is hardwired doesn't make it any more legitimate.

324 posted on 10/12/2010 6:44:39 AM PDT by dfwgator (Texas Rangers - AL West Champions)
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To: Yaelle; manc
Is the activist exploitation of reproductive dysfunction toward implementing the doctrine of transhumanism/postgenderism a CHOICE?  YES, it is.
 
Sex, Evolution and Behavior
 
Without surrogacy and/or abomination of nature via science, the reproductive fitness of a homosexual couple is ZERO. Deal with it.

325 posted on 10/12/2010 7:44:49 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: xzins; Zionist Conspirator
The gospels and letters of the Apostles pretty well spell out the positive commands that cover everything in the law.

The Gospels say to follow every commandment (Mat. 5:17-19). The Epistles say repeatedly that we should imitate Yeshua (1Co. 11:1, 1Jn 2:6)--who I think we agree followed every commandment of the Torah perfectly.

So that doesn't really help--especially since the principle issue before the Acts council was one of coerced circumcision, with the observance of "the Law" being only a secondary issue. Moreover, the issue of the Law was brought up by the Pharisees, who did not have only the Torah in mind, but their particular interpretation of it, so not only the Torah was in view.

The point is that you can't use Acts 15 in the blanket way that Christians commonly do. You yourself admit that that you have obligations above and beyond the four injunctions of the Acts 15 council--no matter what part of the Bible you try to isolate as the source of those injunctions.

How then can you discern the obligations that you as a Gentile follower of Yeshua have? Well, to start with, you really need to study the Torah, the only systematic giving of the commandments in the Bible. In doing so you'll find, for example, that kosher is probably not binding on Gentiles, since Noah was given permission to eat any living creature and Israelites were allowed to sell non-kosher meat to Gentiles. (Which pretty much nixes ZC's point.)

You'll also find that there are many commandments you are not obligated to keep because they are only for those within the Land ("When you come into the Land which the LORD your God will give you . . .").

On the other hand, you'll find that Sabbath was incumbant on the foreigner staying within the gates of a Jew. You'll also find that Isa. 56 is a invitation to the Gentiles to keep the Sabbath--one which flows naturally from Isa. 54, which Paul quoted in Galatians.

You know that I'm not one who thinks the Church got everything wrong, xzins. I just don't think that it's yet gotten everything right, either. That's why I still think there is value in striving among the brethren--so long as they remain brethren.

Shalom.

326 posted on 10/12/2010 7:48:14 AM PDT by Buggman (returnofbenjamin.wordpress.com - Baruch haBa b'Shem ADONAI!)
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To: Yaelle

oh get a grip. there is no evidence what so ever about what you said.
You admit there is no homo gene but now say while a baby and yes it is a baby in the stomach then that id where they are turned into homosexuals
LOL YCNMIU/.

a boy raised by his mother who is treated like a girl when young is bound to be confused.
It is mothers like those who are the idiots in thinking that if their little boy wants a dress or play with dolls then they leave the boy to it instead of correcting that boy and telling him he does not wear or play with girlie things.

Today and during the last 20 years some parents have been treating their little boys like little pansies while growing up instead of telling their little boy he is a boy, get up and to make him a man.
No they treat the little boy as a little girl, they don’t correct the kid and tell him he needs to play with boy toys, do boy things, infact I’ve seen some mothers encourage their boy to play as a girl.


327 posted on 10/12/2010 8:02:08 AM PDT by manc (He goes to church and now this biased media says look he's a Christian.Biased media =joke)
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To: Yaelle

LOL I’ve just read your post again and have to say it contains the biggest amount of B/S I have ever read for some time.

So this something which affects the brain then.
What is this something?
Do you have a medical term for this something?

No you’re using the homosexual crap.

Deal with it, nature intended for a man and a woman to reproduce in order for the human species to live on.
What homosexuals do is for sex, to get off in an unnatural way, not what nature intended.

Your homosexual and I presume you have one by your comments(they told you this crap as it is all homo propaganda) needs mental help not be encouraged .
Their lifespan is shorter, they are confused, they are doing unnatural acts and if you cared you’d help them instead of defending them as if nature made them like that


328 posted on 10/12/2010 8:08:36 AM PDT by manc (He goes to church and now this biased media says look he's a Christian.Biased media =joke)
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To: Buggman; Zionist Conspirator; XeniaSt; Salem
Don't worry about anything intervening in the fact that we're brothers, Buggs. I ping you even to articles and comments I know we'll probably see differently. I want your take on it, and I know it'll be what you actually believe. You've never been one to be argumentative for the sake of being argumentative.

That said, the scriptures clearly say that the entire law can be found within the "love God....neighbor as yourself."

The following also clearly shows that the law was directed at Jews and was not directed at Gentiles. (We're not talking about whether it would be beneficial for Gentiles, simply whether it was directed at them.)

Romans 2: 12 All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. 13 For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God's sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. 14 (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law, 15 since they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now even defending them.) 16 This will take place on the day when God will judge men's secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.

Regarding Love and the Law


329 posted on 10/12/2010 8:23:38 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins; Buggman
That said, the scriptures clearly say that the entire law can be found within the "love God....neighbor as yourself."

Liberalism in a nutshell! "Don't worry about all those obscure rituals or taboos that make no sense; just be a good person." Is it any wonder that two thousand years of this nonsense has finally borne its disgusting fruit?

330 posted on 10/12/2010 8:33:14 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vehe'emin beHaShem; vayachsheveha lo tzedaqah.)
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To: xzins
>>That said, the scriptures clearly say that the entire law can be found within the "love God....neighbor as yourself."
 
Pay no attention to the due penalty for perversion?
Rom 1:25-27
 25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator — who is forever praised. Amen.
 
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
NIV
NO SALE
I KNOW BUT ONE CODE OF MORALITY: FOR MEN WHETHER ACTING SINGLY OR COLLECTIVELY
--Thomas Jefferson
 
Got Natural LAW?
 
Q:  What's the reproductive fitness of homosexuals without surrogacy or the abomination of nature via the perversion of science?  A:  ZERO.
 
 

331 posted on 10/12/2010 8:51:23 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator; xzins
On another occasion it happened that a certain heathen came before Shammai and said to him, "Make me a proselyte, on the condition that you teach me the whole Torah while I stand on one foot." Thereupon he chased him away with the builder's cubit that was in his hand. When he came before Hillel, (he also asked Hillel to teach him the entire Torah while standing on one foot) Hillel replied, "What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor: that is the whole Torah while the rest is commentary; go and learn it." (b.Shabbat 31a)

"Love your fellow as yourself - Rabbi Akiva says this is a great principle of the Torah." (Kedoshim 19:18, Toras Kohanim, ibid. See also Talmud Yerushalmi, Nedarim 9:4; Bereishis Rabbah 24:7)

Shalom

332 posted on 10/12/2010 9:01:53 AM PDT by Buggman (returnofbenjamin.wordpress.com - Baruch haBa b'Shem ADONAI!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator; Buggman; XeniaSt; Salem
"Don't worry about all those obscure rituals or taboos that make no sense; just be a good person."

I don't think you're reading it as Paul intended or as Christianity has had revealed, ZC.

The logic is: Since "love" does no harm to its neighbor, love fulfills the law.

That's quite a bit different than "be a good person."

Also, the love mentioned is not romantic love, erotic "love", or even brotherly kind feelings. It's best defined as sacrificial giving, is best exemplified by Christ, and is translated "charity" in Old English because of its difference from those other kinds of "love".

That said, this love took Christ to the cross and you can't argue against that kind of love, can you?

333 posted on 10/12/2010 9:06:04 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: LomanBill

I don’t understand your post. Can you explain it? Thanks.


334 posted on 10/12/2010 9:11:12 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins
>>you can't argue against that kind of love, can you?
 
You cleverly pervert Christ's sacrifice and forgiveness into a post-modern Gnostic/Sabbatean permission for the abomination of Nature.
 
What is the due penalty for perversion Paul explicitly associates with homosexual behavior?
Rom 1:27
 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
NIV
How's what you're selling any different from Tzvi Sabbatai's "praised be he who permits the forbidden"?

335 posted on 10/12/2010 9:20:22 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: LomanBill; Buggman; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan

I’m not clever about anything, lb. I simply cited scripture from the Apostle Paul. If you have a beef, take it up with him.

The penalty is one that can be described as “in themselves.”

That suggests “disease” to me....perhaps of many vafrieties; perhaps of an auto-immune or andro-immune variety.

I’m solidly trinitarian...nothing gnostic about me at all.


336 posted on 10/12/2010 9:44:47 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: LomanBill; Buggman; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan

I’m not clever about anything, lb. I simply cited scripture from the Apostle Paul. If you have a beef, take it up with him.

The penalty is one that can be described as “in themselves.”

That suggests “disease” to me....perhaps of many varieties; perhaps of an auto-immune or andro-immune variety.

I’m solidly trinitarian...nothing gnostic about me at all.


337 posted on 10/12/2010 9:44:52 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins
>>I’m not clever about anything,
 
Uhuh.
xzins' version:  "The logic is: Since "love" does no harm to its neighbor, love fulfills the law."
 
Aliester Crowley's version:  "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. Love is the law, love under will."
Just a coinkidink?
 
Meanwhile Christ says this about the Law:
Matt 5:17
 
17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
NIV
Pretty simple.     
 
You, Sabbatai, and Crowley are all peddling the same perverted permission instead of the True sacrificial forgiveness manifested via Christ.
 
 
NO SALE.

338 posted on 10/12/2010 10:00:32 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: xzins
That said, this love took Christ to the cross and you can't argue against that kind of love, can you?

You're assuming that chr*stianity is true (you know, like evolutionists assume evolution is true). Your assumption is faulty.

339 posted on 10/12/2010 10:24:13 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vehe'emin beHaShem; vayachsheveha lo tzedaqah.)
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To: Buggman
Yes, I am quite aware of the story of Hillel (and I should have known someone would bring it up).

The heathen demanded to be taught the Torah while standing on one foot. What else could Hillel say?

Hillel would never have argued that the ritual commandments and taboos are essentially unimportant or meaningless, nor would he reduce the Torah to purely rational morality, as you well know.

340 posted on 10/12/2010 10:26:40 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vehe'emin beHaShem; vayachsheveha lo tzedaqah.)
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