Tribune reports LDS remarks on gays so you can decide

The Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 10/9/2010 | Lisa Carricaburu

[Tennessee Nana]

Then you understand why many FReepers didnt vote for Romney in 2008 ...

[zippythepinhead]

Yep. I like Palin for 2012.

[Colofornian]

No actually we gave up polygamy in 1890.

No you didn't.

And in multiple manners you didn't:
(1) See the appendix of B. Carmon Hardy's book, Solemn Covenant: The Mormon Polygamous Passage. Hardy painstakingly details over a couple of hundred additional plural unions that the Lds church secretly solemnized between 1890-1910...many couples went down to Mexico to do that. [How dishonorable for Lds leaders...to say one thing publicly...and conduct themselves in other ways privately]
(2) Mormon leaders didn't tear apart existing polygamous families as of 1890. Coupled with #1, that meant that some "plural unions" formed in the 1900s were still intact as late as the early 1960s. So polygamous families who were mainstream Mormons were still known to around as of then. [That was hardly disbanding polygamy in 1890!]
(3) Mormon leaders say the 19th century polygamists are still practicing polygamy on another star or planet. [That's hardly "giving it up"...rather, it's simply "colonizing" polygamy to another planet or star -- if they exist.]
(4) Mormon leaders say if you have serial spouses even today -- and are sealed to all of them in the temple for eternity -- then you will be an eternal polygamist. [That's hardly "giving it up" even among contemporary Mormons!]
(5) Lds "apostle" Bruce McConkie says that polygamy will be re-instated when the Mormon jesus returns. [So Lds are "giving it up" on earth...only to bring it back, eh] See the appendix of B. Carmon Hardy's book, Solemn Covenant.

[zippythepinhead]

Look Colofornian I am not debating this with you. Like liberals you will define history the way you want and that is fine. Live in your bubble. It will help you stay bitter and ignorant of facts concerning Mormons.

[zippythepinhead]

I need to remain civil. But sometimes I must unleash the insult. Tribune 7 you are a tard ad infinitum!

[Tribune7]

It took you a whole month to come up with that one, Zip??

And here I thought you were using a pseudonym. LOL

My apologies.

[Colofornian]

Live in your bubble.

Go ahead. Live in your bubble.
Pretend hundreds of solemnized plural unions didn't occur after 1890.
Pretend polygamous unions weren't intact through the early 1960s at the blessings of the mainstream Mormon church.
Pretend McConkie didn't say polygamy would return among Mormons.

As for the rest, I can see why you would want pretense.

Marriages forever? Including polygamy? (Hah!)

[Elsie]

 

Tribune reports LDS remarks on gays so you can decide

ELSIE reports BIBLE remarks on gays so you can decide

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Genesis 13:13
 Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21 
  Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
 Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house. 

They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them." 

Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.

Psalms 12:8      The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

      More?

Isaiah 3:9   The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b  Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.

 

 

Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

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2 Peter 2

 1.  But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
 2.  Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
 3.  In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
 4.  For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,  putting them into gloomy dungeons  to be held for judgment;
 5.  if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
 6.  if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
 7.  and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
 8.  (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
 9.  if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
 10.  This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature  and despise authority.   Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
 11.  yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
 12.  But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
 13.  They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.

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But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

 9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
     Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

 

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If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape.....

Genesis 13:13
 Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21 
  Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
 Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house. 

They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them." 

Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.

Psalms 12:8      The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

      More?

[Elsie]

 

Psalms 12:8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

http://www.sfpride.org/  (Check out the ADVERTISERS at the lower right of the page)

 

Psalms 12:8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

http://www.sfpride.org/  (Check out the ADVERTISERS at the lower right of the page)

[Elsie]

Through omission, it had failed to give voice to the voiceless, to inform the debate on issues of the day, to provide a first, rough draft of history.

I guess this means we will NOT see any 'gay' stories in it.

GOD knows how MOUTHY and PUSHY these wonderful folks are!

[Elsie]

Raw Nerve

¡Mi OJOs!

[zippythepinhead]

Wow, with photos! God’s view on homosexual behavior is the final say. That is what it is whether we like it or not.

[Elsie]

This thread is BACK from the deaD?