Posted on 10/10/2010 4:09:29 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
Don’t, no one will have for you when the feds place one in your car.
Technology has made easier what has always been a police procedure, following a suspect. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. But does that mean police can not investigate someone until they are convicted in a court of law? Circular reasoning.
I agree with an earlier post, this will only work on those not really trained. I suspect a fully trained terrorist would already know about tracking devices and how to disable or render them harmless.
Can this technology be miss-used? Certainly. Will it be miss-used? Most likely. Will it turn us into a police state? I doubt it, but who knows. Technology is certainly makeing it easier for 1984 to become a reality.
This seems like a clear cut invasion of property rights.
I believe that, early on, this was an FBI tactic.....to "interview" suspects.
It turned out that the individual who was interviewed would be cut out from the terror cell quickly to protect the others.
That does not mean I agree with warrentless tracking. I do not.
The Patriot Act?
Are we talking about the same Patriot Act?
The one 0 said he was against in 2003, but voted for (one of the few times he voted anything but 'present') in 2006?
The same Patriot Act 0 signed into extension without reform in Feb, 2010?
THAT Patriot Act?
Yeah, I thought so.
Go beat that tired old 'blame Bush' drum somewhere else.
“He was told to surrender any camera equipment and any radios to them. He was never bitter about that, and, instead, fully understood why the FBI had to confiscate his stuff.”
Italian Americans came to this country for the opportunity it held for them to develop and succeed as an individual. Most muslim immigrants come here to see sharia succede and the individual opportunities for success by US citizens destroyed while the Constitution is shred to bits.
Does this mean I can put GPS trackers on police vehicles, if parked in public, and if the tracker is found demand it back since it is my private property? Having a badge doesn’t give you special rights.
Last time I checked, Egypt was in Africa.
Why don't they refer to him as an African-American?
Just curious... :0)
I wonder what will happen inside the walls of that local FBI unit now that this incident made the news. Surely the national office had no idea of this case. Imam Obama has made it crystal clear that his government (which in his mind he owns outright) will NOT go after any Muslims.
Just take it down to the nearest truck stop and stick it on the first east or west bound freight-liner you can find and be done with it.
It sure is funny what difference an administration makes. To this day the left STILL complains about the "evil Bush regime" spying on hapless US citizens without probably cause or a warrant while it turns a blind eye towards the same, or worse IMO, practices occurring under the current regime.
GPS blockers are available,I suggest everybody buy one.
How about if your driveway has a garage, and the garage has a door? Does the tracker shut off when the car's in the garage and the door's down?
BINGO! First,I've read about police using these tracking devices without a warrant before and have read that the courts (don't know which ones) have said it's OK.IMO it's no different than an undercover cop tailing someone when he/she is out and about in public.
And as for the moslem knuckledragger,I think that every damn moslem in this country should have a GPS device tracking them 24/7/365.
johniegrad: “But then, how many homegrown terrorists does it take before this sort of thing is justified?”
I’m not conflicted about it at all. Regardless of what the 9th Circus has ruled, this should be considered an illegal search. It’s one thing to observe what all passerby would typically observe in a public place. It’s something completely different to place a hidden device on a person or their belongings which are supposed to be secure from unreasonable searches. All the authorities have to do is show probable cause before a judge and get a search warrant.
Think about where this would lead. If they have the right to attach devices to a person’s property (in public) then what’s to stop them from putting devices in your clothing? A person is either secure in their belongings or not. Without a search warrant, this shouldn’t be permitted.
They confiscated his radios? Even radio receivers? Or do you mean the kind that can transmit? Radio receivers would be a good bit over the top, it seems to me.
How is it possible to be half American?
Prepare to do weekly sweeps of your vehicles. I plan to. And to disappear any devices I find.
It only takes about 30 minutes to get a court order. At least a judge knows they are doing it and they have to give the judge some semblance of a reason. The FBI left to its own devices is no different that DHS. They will abuse any power they have. The Patriot Act should never have been allowed to pass.
I would have strapped that bad boy on the cat next door. Following him around would have been a trip.
CIB: “Technology has made easier what has always been a police procedure, following a suspect.”
This is a bit more intrusive than following a suspect. What if the person drives onto their private property? I suppose the GPS device would continue transmitting. Police wouldn’t be able to go onto private property without a warrant, right?
As I see it, there’s no expectation of privacy in public places, but that shouldn’t mean the police have free reign over a person and/or the person’s property in public. The police should only be permitted to observe and collect the same information as any other passerby.
Whenever one reads the US Constitution, they should interpret it in a way that provides the greatest possible protection for the rights of citizens and the greatest limits on the powers of government.
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