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Column: Costco's shopping list for Armaggedon Not only Mormons preparing for Earth's Final Days
Vancouver Sun ^ | 10/9/10 | Alan Abel

Posted on 10/09/2010 10:47:46 PM PDT by Kartographer

Back to Costco. On sale for $149.99 is the Food for Health Extreme Emergency Preparedness Kit, which includes, among dozens of other items:

25 servings of Western Stew 25 servings of Potato Soup 20 servings of Oatmeal Water Filtration System

Crank Flashlight/Radio/Cellphone Charger

Survival Knife

Emergency Blankets

Compass/Whistle/Thermometer

4 N95 Safety Masks

1 Roll Duct Tape

Toilet Paper

"Especially developed for Costco members," the megastore assures

(Excerpt) Read more at vancouversun.com ...


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KEYWORDS: armageddon; costco; disasterpreparation; lds; mormon; obamanomics; preppers; survivalists
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To: Kartographer

Most of that stuff we already have in our homes,,,

Water is # 1 on the list,,,

Ammo,food,etc. all trail off to keep you alive,,,

Best to sit down and make a list,,,

Folks in different parts of the country will need different things,,,

Then all you have to do is find a place to put it...:0/


41 posted on 10/10/2010 12:04:40 AM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

And all of the basics can be summed-up in “The Rule of Three” which says your survival is generally contingent upon you not
exceeding:
3 minutes without breathing (drowning, asphyxiation)
3 hours without shelter in an extreme environment (exposure)
3 days without water (dehydration)
3 weeks without food (starvation)

Of course weapons insure you keep what you have prepared to prevent these things fall in there.


42 posted on 10/10/2010 12:07:57 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: screaminsunshine

BEWARE OF WEEVILS

Foods specifically packaged for long term storage are supposedly weevil free but regular supermarket items need extra care.

Rice, flour, pasta, cereal, crackers, prepared mixes, etc. from the grocery store are good survival foods at reasonable prices but many carry weevils or weevil eggs.

We have found that the small cellophane bags of yellow rice mix like VIGO and others are often a problem. Pasta and noodles are also common problem foods. If you have ever noticed dusty, dirty looking resdiue in the bottom of a pasta box it is probably from weevils. Another sign on pasta are little irregularities, like bumps, on the pasta itself.

If weevils infest your survival foods they can ruin a large amount of food in no time. They easily bore through boxes, bags, plastic, etc. to get from one package to the next.

To protect foods from infestation put all dry foods, prepared mixes, spices, pasta, flour, rice, corn meals, crackers, bread etc. in the freezer for a minimum of several days. Longer is better. Freezing will kill the weevils and the larvae or eggs.

We freeze everything before it goes in the pantry, even prepared survival foods and foods we will consume within a few days. That prevents any possiblity of cross-contaminating foods we have already put through the freezer. We just put all dry groceries in the freezer and leave them there until we need the room or are ready to repackage them or use them.

There is a lot of information on the web about ways of dealing with an infestation but it is far better and much easier to prevent infestation than to eliminate it after it takes hold. Especially if you aren’t aware you have a problem until you go to use the stored food in a survival situation.


43 posted on 10/10/2010 12:13:35 AM PDT by Iron Munro (I prayed: "O Lord make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it - He sent the Obamas.)
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To: musicman

BFLR


44 posted on 10/10/2010 12:13:38 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Kartographer

Not worried, that will never happen. Not into the whole survivor baloney.


45 posted on 10/10/2010 12:24:18 AM PDT by Sto Zvirat
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To: Kartographer

If anyone does not provide for his relatives, and
especially for his immediate family, he has
denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
1 Timothy 5:8
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Good grief

there ya go again...

your scare tactics are bad enough

But using God to sell your products ???

I doubt if everyone who goes to Costco and buys what you are advertising are Jews or Christians or read the Bible...

Looks look at that scripture in the right words and context...

It is about a man working and supporting his hungry family in the here and now,

not buying survival gear for a maybe future..

You gave us the NIV which mormons denounce as not translated right ..

The whole passage is instructions to the early church on how to treat older people especially widows...

Do not rebuke an older man harshly, but exhort him as if he were your father. Treat younger men as brothers, older women as mothers, and younger women as sisters, with absolute purity. Give proper recognition to those widows who are really in need. But if a widow has children or grandchildren, these should learn first of all to put their religion into practice by caring for their own family and so repaying their parents and grandparents, for this is pleasing to God. The widow who is really in need and left all alone puts her hope in God and continues night and day to pray and to ask God for help. But the widow who lives for pleasure is dead even while she lives. Give the people these instructions, too, so that no one may be open to blame.

If anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for his immediate family, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

No widow may be put on the list of widows unless she is over sixty, has been faithful to her husband, and is well known for her good deeds, such as bringing up children, showing hospitality, washing the feet of the saints, helping those in trouble and devoting herself to all kinds of good deeds. As for younger widows, do not put them on such a list. For when their sensual desires overcome their dedication to Christ, they want to marry. Thus they bring judgment on themselves, because they have broken their first pledge. Besides, they get into the habit of being idle and going about from house to house. And not only do they become idlers, but also gossips and busybodies, saying things they ought not to. So I counsel younger widows to marry, to have children, to manage their homes and to give the enemy no opportunity for slander. Some have in fact already turned away to follow Satan.

If any woman who is a believer has widows in her family, she should help them and not let the church be burdened with them, so that the church can help those widows who are really in need. (1Timothy 5:1-16 NIV)

1 Timothy 5:8

New International Version (©1984)
If anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for his immediate family, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

New Living Translation (©2007)
But those who won’t care for their relatives, especially those in their own household, have denied the true faith. Such people are worse than unbelievers.

English Standard Version (©2001)
But if anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for members of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

International Standard Version (©2008)
If anyone does not take care of his own relatives, especially his immediate family, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

GOD’S WORD® Translation (©1995)
If anyone doesn’t take care of his own relatives, especially his immediate family, he has denied the Christian faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

King James Bible
But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

American King James Version
But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he has denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

American Standard Version
But if any provideth not for his own, and specially his own household, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an unbeliever.

Bible in Basic English
If anyone has no care for his family and those in his house, he is false to the faith, and is worse than one who has no faith.

Douay-Rheims Bible
But if any man have not care of his own, and especially of those of his house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

Darby Bible Translation
But if any one does not provide for his own, and specially for those of his house, he has denied the faith, and is worse than the unbeliever.

English Revised Version
But if any provideth not for his own, and specially his own household, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an unbeliever.

Webster’s Bible Translation
But if any provideth not for his own, and especially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

Weymouth New Testament
But if a man makes no provision for those dependent on him, and especially for his own family, he has disowned the faith and is behaving worse than an unbeliever.

World English Bible
But if anyone doesn’t provide for his own, and especially his own household, he has denied the faith, and is worse than an unbeliever.

Young’s Literal Translation
and if any one for his own — and especially for those of the household — doth not provide, the faith he hath denied, and than an unbeliever he is worse.

Nope no mention of Costco...


46 posted on 10/10/2010 12:24:57 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Kartographer

Great rule of thumb,,,

I must have 3-4 months worth of food/etc. stocked up now,,,

Still short of water,,,

That’s on the “to do” list as well as a small fireplace out

back to cook or heat stuff...


47 posted on 10/10/2010 12:38:29 AM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Sto Zvirat

“If I’m ever in a position where to survive, I’m staring down 25 servings of “western stew”, I’d rather be dead.”

The 25 servings of “western stew” could be a blessing in disguise. I doubt that the meat contained in it is prepared according to the Muslim custom of halal. That might just thin the herd with all the muzzies starving to death.


48 posted on 10/10/2010 12:49:29 AM PDT by Nacatamal (I've lived under Ortega and Obama. Frankly, I can't tell the difference.)
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To: Kartographer

Stocking up on items that are on sale and have a long shelf life is good prepping and financially smart. We have about 6 months of canned fruits, vegetables, meats, powdered drinks, soups, stews and dried goods like beans, rice, pancake mix, Bisquick, pastas, & spices that we normally use. We rotate our stock and get the smaller size cans so that there wont be any leftovers that require refrigeration.

This is financially smart because our “Mini Grocery Store” was all acquired “on sale”, and as grocery prices rise, it’s a financial investment.

Try a practice run by shutting off your gas, power, water and telephone for the weekend, or a few days to get a feel for what else you may need in a SHTF situation, like water, propane, batteries, lanterns, paper goods, etc, etc.

Hopefully this situation wont occur. If it does, we’re ready. If it doesn’t, we will use most of this anyway.


49 posted on 10/10/2010 12:50:18 AM PDT by Tagurit (Are your pigs fed, watered and ready to fly?)
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To: Kartographer
It has never been about "final days" with Mormons. It is about being prepared for emergencies. Natural disasters. Job loss. Perhaps political disasters too. Stuff happens. Being prepared is a prudent approach to handling chaos when it arrives. A 2 year supply takes time, money, space and active management. Few achieve the goal. Even for those who miss terribly, some attempt may be just enough to get by.
50 posted on 10/10/2010 12:54:31 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Kartographer
Make sure the food you stash is stuff you can eat and like to eat. I put away lots of buckets of wheat in nitrogen. That turns out to be unsatisfactory as I discovered my health issues were due to gluten intolerance. I've purchased rice and beans to replace the wheat. Bags of whey protein and barrels of water with a little non-soapy chlorine bleach are good resources to have on hand. Use a permanent black felt tip laundry marker to date your purchases so you can rotate the older stuff into your daily food consumption and replace it with more recently purchased items. If a can looks dented or bulging, toss it. The value of the food inside isn't worth dying.
51 posted on 10/10/2010 1:01:04 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Iron Munro
I heard from ex-Navy sailors during WWII that when the food or flour on ships would get contaminated with weevils, the cook would tell the kitchen crew to just cook the food as is, besides, it's extra protein.
52 posted on 10/10/2010 1:39:38 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

“Still short of water,,,
That’s on the “to do” list as well as a small fireplace out
back to cook or heat stuff...”

Figure an average of 2 gallons of water per person per day for drinking, cooking, washing and personal hygiene. Stock bottled water for convenience, and focus on rain barrels or water collection and purification. There is also water that can be drained from your hot water heater, plumbing system, and toilet RESERVOIR.

A propane grill with a side burner should meet most all of your cooking needs.(a camp stove for indoors). I keep 10 20 lb propane tanks full at all times, and refill each one when emptied. (I grill & smoke meats a lot). That’s a lot of propane for grilling, but it won’t go bad, and it isn’t getting any cheaper.

Be careful cooking outdoors in a SHTF situation unless your willing to share your food!


53 posted on 10/10/2010 1:42:35 AM PDT by Tagurit (Are your pigs fed, watered and ready to fly?)
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To: Kartographer

No 1911?


54 posted on 10/10/2010 1:51:52 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Tagurit

I’ve got 4 tanks for my grill now,,,

The best thing about where I live is my neighbors,,,

4 0ther vets and about 10 of the young`un’s,,,

Neighborhood SWAT,,,

We have a good “pinch-point” to seal this place off,,,

Some have generators and freezers,,,

Plenty of beef/pig/deer...


55 posted on 10/10/2010 2:21:22 AM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Iron Munro
I've been throwing things in the freezer for years...usually about a two weeks..I'm not a professional food saver so my ways are simply what I've picked up here on FR or similar: after freezing, my stuff will go into sturdy jars with screw on lids...with oxygen absorbers that my Mormon friend got me...(where else can you get them?)....I mark the date on it and thats it...

Vlasic pickles has a tall pickle jar..not a gallon....that is excellent for just such a purpose....

my one complaint is sometimes the freezing affects the taste..I put big bags of sugar in and I thought it tasted funny....but in recipes it doesn't matter so much..

56 posted on 10/10/2010 2:25:13 AM PDT by cherry
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To: MamaDearest

As I understand it, the Costco food kit includes giant sized cans that contain 42 servings each. This is fine, if your family has 42 people in it. But if there are only 4 or 5, once the can is opened, the other 38 servings will go to waste without refrigeration, which in an apocalyptic scenario would be absent. Regular sized cans would be better in that situation.


57 posted on 10/10/2010 3:08:45 AM PDT by giotto
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To: jonrick46

How are you supposed to store leftovers from those large cans?

That stack is certainly NOT portable. I’m going with foods that can be eaten cold - tuna, anchovies, beans, oatmeal, granola bars, beef jerky, etc. - and transportable.


58 posted on 10/10/2010 3:27:22 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Sounds like you live in my neighborhood!
I haven’t discussed SHTF scenarios with my neighbors, which I need to do, but am reluctant to tell anyone about my stash. Neighbors can be a great asset, but some can be a drain. Know who is the good, the bad and the ugly!
Just remember that generators are only good as long as their fuel supply lasts - usually a week or two at most.

I feel sorry for those that live in a big city, as their resources are limited, but then again, most of them are liberals, and liberals deserve to starve anyway!
We will tend our gardens and livestock while they riot.


59 posted on 10/10/2010 3:27:49 AM PDT by Tagurit (Are your pigs fed, watered and ready to fly?)
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To: NTHockey

“How are you supposed to store leftovers from those large cans?”

You cant! Stick with the standard size cans of fruits, vegetables and meats. Mega sized bags of rice, pasta, salt, sugar, dried beans and things like peanut butter, coffee, honey, pancake mix, flower, spices Bisquick, etc, are ok without refrigeration.


60 posted on 10/10/2010 3:51:34 AM PDT by Tagurit (Are your pigs fed, watered and ready to fly?)
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