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1970 tape recording of Kent State shootings reveals sound of pistol shots
Washington Post ^ | 10/08/10 | AP

Posted on 10/09/2010 2:36:35 PM PDT by DFG

CLEVELAND - A tape recording of the 1970 shooting deaths of four Kent State University students by Ohio National Guardsmen reveals the sound of pistol shots 70 seconds earlier, a newspaper reported Friday citing the work of a forensic audio expert.

The finding lends support to a theory that the guardsmen thought they were being shot at during a campus Vietnam War protest. Witnesses said at the time that an FBI informant monitoring the protest fired warning shots because he felt threatened.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canfora; godsgravesglyphs; kent; leftistliars; norman; nothinghaschanged; rioters; wkyc
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To: DFG

I always felt that way. Even back then the news was biased.


21 posted on 10/09/2010 3:14:33 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: nickcarraway

I always blamed the Weather Underground, i.e. Bill Ayers.


22 posted on 10/09/2010 3:15:37 PM PDT by Jenny217
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To: I cannot think of a name

lol

yep, that’s the tragedy alright. I agree.


23 posted on 10/09/2010 3:18:25 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: DFG
The Kent State incident was clearly the fault of the student protesters and not the National Guardsmen.

Actually, it wasn't the fault of students nor the National Guard.

It was the anarchists, people like Bill Ayers, who turned the PROTEST into a RIOT. People who get their jollies watching other people DIE.

24 posted on 10/09/2010 3:19:06 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (lame and ill-informed post)
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...

Thanks DFG.


25 posted on 10/09/2010 3:24:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: UCANSEE2

“It was the anarchists, people like Bill Ayers, who turned the PROTEST into a RIOT. People who get their jollies watching other people DIE. “

Useful idiots.


26 posted on 10/09/2010 3:26:41 PM PDT by mirkwood (Paul LePage for governor)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Previously undisclosed FBI documents suggest that the Kent State antiwar protests were more meticulously planned than originally thought and that one or more gunshots may have been fired

The students were swept up in the Peace Movement, and that brought on the concept of a Protest against the War.

The anarchists and communists saw this as a means to an end, and did the meticulous planning to turn the PROTEST into a RIOT.

Those same type of people (anarchists and communists) tried to do the same thing recently at a protest against the sentencing of a black man, in Oakland, CA (IIRC). The police chief was aware the anarchists were there, and of their tactics, and ordered his men not to get suckered into shooting protestors.

27 posted on 10/09/2010 3:27:26 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (lame and ill-informed post)
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To: mirkwood
Useful idiots.

I'm thinking USELESS idiots.

28 posted on 10/09/2010 3:30:08 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Gay State Conservative
I did riot control training as a Training NCO at the time. There were probably as many draft dodgers in the NG as there were among the protesters.

The NG demonstrated a failure of command and control from the officers up and down the chain of command, it was a mob rather than a disciplined force.

29 posted on 10/09/2010 3:32:33 PM PDT by Little Bill (Harry Browne is a Poofter.)
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To: nickcarraway

Well the kid wasn’t an agent. He was a student. Who knows what he was thinking. Or even whose side he really was on. It’s rather dramatic that they call him an “informant and agent-provocateur”.


30 posted on 10/09/2010 3:38:07 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Well, they call him that, because the FBI was using people like at the time. And some of them probably were on the other side. It wouldn’t be the first time such an operation blew up in their faces. If the FBI is going to use a civilian asset, they better be damn sure they’ve vetted and prepared things properly. The planners of these riots may be bad guys, but it doesn’t help if the FBI is, even unintentionally, assisting them.


31 posted on 10/09/2010 3:43:00 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: UCANSEE2
You're right. This kind of activity was listed by Communists on a "to do" list.

The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

32 posted on 10/09/2010 3:44:20 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: nickcarraway

I think it was hard to tell who was friend or foe. It probably still is.


33 posted on 10/09/2010 3:46:05 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
The night before -- the "protesters" burned down the ROTC building -- -- and chanted (to the guardsmen) "We're going to kill you."
34 posted on 10/09/2010 3:55:09 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
"...now that they have been credibly verified."

That's now that they've been allegedly verified.

Maybe this guy's on to something, and maybe he isn't. I know that just listening to the recording once I already spotted some trouble with his conclusion.

35 posted on 10/09/2010 3:58:03 PM PDT by mlo
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To: BenLurkin

I recall the ROTC Building but I didn’t know about the chant.The combination of the arson and that chant would have made a reasonable Guardsman fearful and,perhaps,a bit jumpy.And that goes for Officer *and* Enlisted.


36 posted on 10/09/2010 4:05:05 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (''I don't regret setting bombs,I feel we didn't do enough.'' ->Bill Ayers,Hussein's mentor,9/11/01)
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To: Krankor

It took Nixon to stop it.


37 posted on 10/09/2010 4:10:55 PM PDT by bannie (Gone to seed.)
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To: Jenny217

“I always blamed the Weather Underground,”
***********

and the SDS.

http://speccoll.library.kent.edu/4may70/box107/107f9p1.html


38 posted on 10/09/2010 4:16:31 PM PDT by Canedawg (Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools that have not wit enough to be honest.)
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To: An American In Dairyland

I guess we can’t count on you when the time comes.


39 posted on 10/09/2010 4:19:24 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: RJR_fan

I think it’s time we stop, children, what’s that sound
Everybody look what’s going down

There’s battle lines being drawn
Nobody’s right if everybody’s wrong
Young people speaking their minds
Getting so much resistance from behind


40 posted on 10/09/2010 4:19:58 PM PDT by OwenKellogg (Don't Tread on Me)
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