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Tickerguy's Recommendation: Buy Guns
The Market Ticker ^ | 10-6-2010 | Karl Denninger

Posted on 10/06/2010 7:24:41 AM PDT by blam

Tickerguy's Recommendation: Buy Guns

The Market Ticker
Karl Denninger
September6, 2010

Yes, I mean it.

We now have confirmed instances, including 911 calls, of banks hiring people to break into homes where the foreclosure has not yet taken place, and in some instances, they're breaking into the wrong house. That's illegal - until the bank has a court order giving them possession, they don't have possession and they have no right to be there.

Folks, I'm gonna quote Florida Statutes - specifically Section 776.013

776.013 Home protection; use of deadly force; presumption of fear of death or great bodily harm. (1) A person is presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another when using defensive force that is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm to another if:

(a) The person against whom the defensive force was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcefully entering, or had unlawfully and forcibly entered, a dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle, or if that person had removed or was attempting to remove another against that person’s will from the dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle; and

(b) The person who uses defensive force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry or unlawful and forcible act was occurring or had occurred.

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(4) A person who unlawfully and by force enters or attempts to enter a person’s dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle is presumed to be doing so with the intent to commit an unlawful act involving force or violence.

That's pretty clear.

So when Mr. Bank Thug unlawfully comes into your home, is not a law enforcement officer who has properly identified himself, and unlawfully breaks down the door, you are, from my reading of this statute, within your rights to shoot him to stop that unlawful entry, as you have the presumption under Florida Law that his intention is to commit an unlawful act involving force or violence.

I ain't a lawyer but this statutory language does not leave much to interpretation.

Therefore, in Florida (and some other states) if Mr. RoboBank decides to come try to steal possession of your home without the nuisance of lawful process (and if you're not actually in foreclosure he cannot acquire lawful process) you have every right under the law to stop him, up to and including the use of deadly force.

When seconds count 911 will get you help in minutes, but Mr. Smith & Wesson, if you have previously arranged to engage his services, is available to provide immediate assistance.

When we have people entering homes without the legal right to do so through the use of force and violence we have entered Zombieland, whether we wish to admit it or not, and as such we as citizens have no realistic choice but to act accordingly.


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KEYWORDS: banglist; cw2; guns; housing; mortgages; realestate
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1 posted on 10/06/2010 7:24:45 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

And lots of ammo.

Ammo will be more useful as currency than gold, if things really get bad.


2 posted on 10/06/2010 7:26:24 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Westbrook

Invest is Gold and Lead! Lots of each!


3 posted on 10/06/2010 7:27:22 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: US Navy Vet

in


4 posted on 10/06/2010 7:27:35 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: blam
I'd go with Mr. Remington


5 posted on 10/06/2010 7:28:06 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: blam

Got plenty of guns... it’s ammo that needs to be stockpiled.


6 posted on 10/06/2010 7:28:10 AM PDT by maddog55 (OBAMA, You can't fix stupid...)
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To: blam
JPMorgan Foreclosure Henchman Breaks Into Woman's House - Listen To Her TERRIFYING 911 Call
7 posted on 10/06/2010 7:28:31 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam
We now have confirmed instances, including 911 calls, of banks hiring people to break into homes where the foreclosure has not yet taken place, and in some instances, they're breaking into the wrong house. That's illegal - until the bank has a court order giving them possession, they don't have possession and they have no right to be there.

HOLY CRAP!

We're becoming Zimbabwe!

8 posted on 10/06/2010 7:29:10 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The battle lines are drawn: On one side, are Dems and Repubs. On the other, the Tea Party (us).)
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To: US Navy Vet

Buy lead to protect your gold and silver.


9 posted on 10/06/2010 7:30:43 AM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Paladin2

10 posted on 10/06/2010 7:32:20 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: blam

I posted on another thread: If gold is $4000/oz and bread is $4000/loaf, it still costs 1 oz. of gold for a loaf of bread. Someone replied that if bread was $4000/loaf then gold would be $500,000/oz. The point is this: If paper money is worthless then the gold you have in your vaults is also worthless, because nobody has cash to pay for it. You can’t eat gold. While I do have some precious metals, I have been focusing on stocking the emergency food supplies. Flame away!


11 posted on 10/06/2010 7:33:00 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Eagles6
Buy lead to protect your gold and silver.

Modern alchemy.

12 posted on 10/06/2010 7:33:08 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Eagles6

I gave some “precious metals” advice to my nephew.

Buy metals in this order, as you can afford:

lead and brass in specific configurations,
silver for spending when the dollar is worth less than a sheet of toilet paper,
gold for preserving your wealth to “the other side” of the economic upheaval.


13 posted on 10/06/2010 7:35:17 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Westbrook
Ammo will be more useful as currency than gold, if things really get bad.

You can never have too many bullets.

14 posted on 10/06/2010 7:36:31 AM PDT by paulcissa (The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
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To: goodwithagun

I don’t know why any one would flame you for that...sounds damn smart to me!!!


15 posted on 10/06/2010 7:37:20 AM PDT by ontap
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To: blam

Actually, there SHOULDN’T BE a “legal right” to enter a home by breaking in,
without a court order/warrant to do so.

Even law enforcement should be required to KNOCK and present the warrant, and should not be able to do a dynamic entry. No, I don’t care about “preservation of evidence” as much as I care about preservation of private property.

Anyone shot breaking into a house deserves it.


16 posted on 10/06/2010 7:37:31 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: goodwithagun

I posted on another thread: If gold is $4000/oz and bread is $4000/loaf, it still costs 1 oz. of gold for a loaf of bread.


But gold has never cost an ounce of gold, nor even an ounce of silver. Maybe if you changed your tale to 1/10th ounce of silver, it might make some economic sense.

When you begin with absurd premises, you arrive at absurd conclusions.


17 posted on 10/06/2010 7:37:31 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Congressmen should serve two terms: One in Congress and one in prison.)
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To: maddog55
Got plenty of guns... it’s ammo that needs to be stockpiled.

Got both....but need yet another damn safe!

18 posted on 10/06/2010 7:39:16 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (I believe in man-made political climate change.)
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To: goodwithagun

Gold is for wealth preservation.
Silver is for currency/spending/trade.

1 oz of silver will buy 10 loaves of bread, regardless of the “price”, in dollars, of each.


19 posted on 10/06/2010 7:40:33 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: goodwithagun

“You can’t eat gold.”

I suppose you could make bullets out of it ;-)


20 posted on 10/06/2010 7:43:45 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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