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NY-23, Hoffman drops out, endorses Doheny
Doheny email alert ^ | 10/5/10 | Doheny

Posted on 10/05/2010 8:01:22 AM PDT by randita

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To: AuH2ORepublican; neverdem

Very well-put, this is very good news. I’m glad that Hoffman came to his senses.


61 posted on 10/05/2010 4:36:53 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama's more worried about Israelis building houses than he is about Islamists building atomic bombs)
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To: presently no screen name
You seeing it as a pity party doesn’t make it so nor you seeing him as a Dede shows your surface thinking on the matter.

Well, no, the problem here is that you are coming to some illogical conclusions because you are starting from an incorrect premise.

You seem to be basing your argument on the belief that Hoffman's involvement in the 2010 race was the same, and for the same reasons, as his run in 2009. In both cases, you seem to believe, Hoffman was the superhero conservative underdog valiantly struggling to overturn the left-wing establishment out-of-touch Party insider's handpicked candidate.

That was indeed the case in 2009, which is why I fully supported Hoffman's run last year, to the point of sending the man money.

But this wasn't the case this year. This year, they actually had a primary - and Hoffman lost. In other words, Doheny was the GOP candidate, not because a closed-door backroom session of insiders selected him for the job, but because the Republican voters of the district decided they liked him better than Hoffman. Whether you like it or not is irrelevant - the GOP voters in the district get to decide, not you.

So, instead of accepting the verdict of the voters from the get go, and telling the Conservative Party that he wasn't going to split the vote when both candidates are conservatives, he continued to run on a third party ticket, predictably splitting the vote. Now, even though he finally did the right thing and dropped out, he has still damaged the chances of getting a conservative into that seat because now there'll be confusion, his name will still be on the ballot, there'll be folks in the district with hard feelings so they won't come out to vote, etc. etc. ad nauseum.

All because he decided to not accept the verdict of his own primary voters....just like Lisa Murkowski. At least the difference is, Doug Hoffman realised the damage he was doing, and honourably bowed out. Murkowski, on the other hand, WANTS to do as much damage as she can.

62 posted on 10/05/2010 5:03:48 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (is a Jim DeMint Republican. You might say he's a funDeMintalist conservative.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

The problem here is that you are coming to some illogical conclusions because you are starting from an incorrect premise.


63 posted on 10/05/2010 5:47:53 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: randita

“.. “Our nation is at a crossroads, and it is imperative that on Election Day we wrest control of Congress from Nancy Pelosi and the Democrat majority,” ..”

Hoffman is right. Wish he won the primary, but he’s doing the right thing.


64 posted on 10/05/2010 7:10:17 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: nutmeg

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65 posted on 10/05/2010 7:14:56 PM PDT by nutmeg (29 days 'til Election Day...)
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To: nutmeg

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66 posted on 10/05/2010 7:23:19 PM PDT by nutmeg (29 days 'til Election Day...)
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To: vicar7

>Wow!! Someone that figured out life is not about him/her.

Which makes me like him even more. Too bad.


67 posted on 10/05/2010 8:42:37 PM PDT by ROTB (Without a Christian revival, we are government slaves, or nuked by China/Russia during armed revolt.)
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To: La Enchiladita

Scozzafava may have been a Republican but she was no conservative. How is it principled to abandon all principle to retain a seat? You only become the enemy.


68 posted on 10/05/2010 11:31:24 PM PDT by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenario at a time.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT; deport
I’m glad he did this, but frankly, he screwed the Constutition party, and I hope they remember this and never sponsor him again. They fight for the line item on the ballot, and they try to pick candidates who will get votes on that line, to keep it.

Other than it being the Conservative Party, as you corrected, you're right on the money.

69 posted on 10/05/2010 11:53:27 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: randita

Hoffman shows himself to be a stand-up guy. I wish him the best in the future. Maybe he’ll run again some day for something and people will get behind him. He needs to get a little more spark and energy to his presentation, just based on what little I’ve seen of him. I hope he does that and succeeds in the future if that’s what he wants.

I haven’t been paying much attention to this race except I knew Hoffman and someone else were running against the rat, and I’m not in NY. Anybody know anything about Doheny?


70 posted on 10/06/2010 12:34:38 AM PDT by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: AuH2ORepublican; CharlesWayneCT; randita; Clintonfatigued; Clemenza; fieldmarshaldj; Crichton

Gotta love this arcane election law. I hope Hoffman’s supporters do as he asks. Good for him, I’m pleasantly surprised.

Lazio has a snowballs chance to hell to win in the Bronx especially given that he won’t actually even be trying to win but would that ever be funny.


71 posted on 10/06/2010 12:50:20 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy

Lazio doesn’t want to be a judge, and knows he won’t win a judicial election in the Bronx, which is why he was nominated there and not in, say, the Southern Tier (where the R label is a feature, not a bug). If he someone won the election, he would resign before taking office.


72 posted on 10/06/2010 3:15:13 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: randita

earlier would have been better but this is still good


73 posted on 10/06/2010 4:01:25 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

old tuffle, why don’t you go campaign hard for Doheny or anyone? You want Hoffman to campaign hard for Doheny the same way Doheny campaigned for Owens in November? Is that it?

I never ask my primary opponents to “make amends” after they are defeated. They are apt to tell me to go screw.


74 posted on 10/06/2010 7:43:05 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT ("pray without ceasing" - Paul of Tarsus)
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To: submarinerswife

no. Hoffman is the fairy godmother who has a day job as an accountant.


75 posted on 10/06/2010 7:43:55 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT ("pray without ceasing" - Paul of Tarsus)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

sorry CIN. When politicians like Doheny do not endorse guys like Hoffman vs. Owens last NOV after Dede dropped out .... now Doheny is in a position to dictate when and how Hoffman is to endorse him?

Now it is time for the County Chairs and committee members to get off the easy chair and see if they really are interested in defeating Owens. (Don’t hold your breath.)


76 posted on 10/06/2010 8:05:43 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT ("pray without ceasing" - Paul of Tarsus)
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To: campaignPete R-CT
"You want Hoffman to campaign hard for Doheny the same way Doheny campaigned for Owens in November? Is that it?"

I thought that Hoffman wanted the same thing that all of us want. A legislature that stops the leftward tilt toward socialism and ruin for everyone. If he was, then he would support the candidate that best represents that idea. Hoffman has a constituency in his district that could be persuaded to vote for less spending, less federal government and the rule of law. I guess I was wrong. I guess what you are saying is that he was in it for himself all along.
77 posted on 10/06/2010 8:07:32 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Last November vs. Owens ... why did Doheny not support Hoffman over Owens after Dede dropped out? Maybe he was out of town?

“I thought that Doheny wanted the same thing that all of us want. A legislature that stops the leftward tilt toward socialism and ruin for everyone. If he was, then he would support the candidate that best represents that idea. Doheny has a constituency in his district that could be persuaded to vote for less spending, less federal government and the rule of law. I guess I was wrong. I guess what you are saying is that he was in it for himself all along.”


78 posted on 10/06/2010 8:11:32 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT ("pray without ceasing" - Paul of Tarsus)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

I can’t speak for last year. What I can speak to is this year and the importance of stopping the Obama leftward tilt of this country. If personal grudges are what drove Hoffman to try running as a third candidate, then drop out and not campaign for Doheny, then he must not be keeping what is important before him. I’ve read that Doheny is conservative. It’s one thing to not support a super RINO like Scozzafava. I and most people on this site supported him last year in that endeavor. However, if the country is what’s important and not his personal feelings and ambitions, then he should do the right thing and do everything in his power to get the conservative elected over an automatic vote for Nancy Pelosi. His choice...


79 posted on 10/06/2010 8:22:08 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Doheny is the candidate. So if you’re a Doheny supporter, it is your responsibility to build his coalition and win the election. If I were you, I’d get to work on it.


80 posted on 10/06/2010 8:25:03 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT ("pray without ceasing" - Paul of Tarsus)
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