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To: kristinn; All

Differentiating between Islam and the Muslim people is a good idea, as you said Franklin Graham did; I’ve said this on a number of threads, but it is worth repeating.

A Muslim store owner in South Florida opened his store’s parking lot to a Christian ministry preaching the Gospel and distributing food to the homeless. Post-9/11, of course.

Not all Muslims are filled with hate for America. Nevertheless, we must be wise as serpents.


14 posted on 10/03/2010 9:29:04 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Good works do not a good Moslem make in the eyes of the discerning. They are known to “butter up” the public and those actions are more to advance their political agenda and acceptance than that they care for “Christians” or anyone else for that matter.

When you see their history of taking a country for Islam you will find good acts preceed the push for their rights and advancement of their cause....this positions them.

Islam is what it is...trying to make it acceptable is an affront to our country and it’s people.


23 posted on 10/03/2010 9:41:55 AM PDT by caww
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To: Recovering_Democrat
“Differentiating between Islam and the Muslim people is a good idea,..”

No it isn't. We have only to look at the Koran and the very acts and words of the “prophet” to KNOW BEYOND ANY DOUBT what EXACTLY Islam is. We have only to look at what Muslims did to interfere with the absolute power of Islam anywhere Islam gained the upper hand.

Fight them now, fight them later, fight them you will; including that guy with the parking lot in FLA

28 posted on 10/03/2010 9:48:45 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: Recovering_Democrat

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There’s no such thing as a moderate Muslim.
Muslims believe the Koran is the perfect word of their god.
The Koran dictates that all Muslims kill or convert until the world is ruled by Islam. They are obligated to help bring this about by the Koran.

Here’s some quotes from other FReepers that I saved.

“Most people do not recognize that what happens in a mosque is sedition. Pure and simple. Islam is not just a “religion”, it is a cult, it is it’s own government, its judicial...is in its sharia, and its military (jihadis) all rolled into one with one intent ...and that is to rule wherever they take root.
It is a invasive, systemic infection looking to take over the host once it has quantum.
This is not just a “religion”, but something that cloaks itself in those terms so it should not be given the same treatment contemplated under the first amendment. The Korans rules in Sharia are to consume whatever government there is wherever it goes.
To supplant and replace.
The sooner America learns this , the better.”

Islam is *NOT* a religion.
It is a violent, seditious, malignant self-contained, authoritarian, totalitarian, misogynistic political, cultural, judicial, and religious system fighting a bloody war for world domination and genocide of the Jews.
Mohammed was a pirate, a pedophile, a polygamist, a rapist, a murderer, a torturer, a thief, a liar, a plunderer, an adulterer, a trucebreaker, a slave trader, a slave owner, an executioner, a Jew hater, and a bloody, savage, genocidal lunatic.
His bloody death cult teaches that he was the “perfect man”, who all Mohammedans must emulate.

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47 posted on 10/03/2010 10:43:14 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
we must be wise as serpents.


Muslims are. So far we are not. We continue to shed blood in their hellholes by fighting humanely against savages...and we continue to let more into the country. Both GOP and Dem elites continue to “differentiate” - IS THAT WHY WE CONTINUALY SEND BILLIONS TO TERROR SUPPORTING STATES LIKE THOSE IN THE ARABIA PENINSULA AND EGYPT AND TURKEY?

This should be our mantra: the only good muslim is a converted one—converted to Christianity and to sanity.

63 posted on 10/03/2010 11:25:13 AM PDT by eleni121 (http://www.serfes.org/orthodox/memoryof.htm)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

That’s encouraging, but I’m afraid that your experience was the exception, not the rule.


76 posted on 10/03/2010 12:01:49 PM PDT by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

You made excellent points. I think, however, the influence of Islam for those that identify themselves as Muslim will, in the majority of cases, ultimately dominate the intentions of Western law and values when a choice needs to be made.

As Christians, we reject Islam which is not just a coincidence to the tenets of Western morality. Muslims obviously do not reject Islam.


98 posted on 10/03/2010 1:36:35 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

A Muslim is someone who is a believer in Islam, which is an evil ideology, not unlike Hitler’s Nazism or the USSR’s Communism.

Instead of accommodating Islam and pretending that it is a peaceful “religion”, those of us who want to maintain freedom should call upon Muslims to reject it. Islam does not recognize our Constitution, or separation of “church” and state. It’s about theocracy, denial of religious freedom, denial of human rights, murder, terrorism, and barbaric “sharia” laws.

Obama tells us otherwise, and as usual he is completely wrong.


99 posted on 10/03/2010 1:38:11 PM PDT by pleikumud
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Not all Muslims are filled with hate for America. Nevertheless, we must be wise as serpents.

One of the individuals on the "This Week" panel is a man by the name of Robert Spencer. He is a scholar of Islam and the Koran and is the author of this book (and others):

Go HERE to see the trailer for the movie Islam: What The West Needs to Know and you will have your eyes opened.

107 posted on 10/03/2010 2:05:00 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Differentiating between Islam and the Muslim people is a good idea,

It won't matter a hill of beans. Islam is a totalitarian world view; it is a dictatorship. If there are moderate Muslims, they are subjugated by the hard core true believers every time. They possess no power.

Islam must be reformed by Muslims. Until that happens, Islam is our implacable ENEMY, and must be purged from the west.

135 posted on 10/03/2010 3:57:13 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Not all Muslims are filled with hate for America. Nevertheless, we must be wise as serpents.

It seems that Muslims like the one in Florida are considered not practicing, and are very brave to openly go against people like Choudary. I'd like to see more of them.

142 posted on 10/03/2010 4:20:11 PM PDT by DejaJude
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Bronx Trial Shows how Prisons Breed Terrorists

The trial of the four suspects accused of plotting to bomb synagogues in the Bronx and shoot down aircraft with missiles continues in New York this week. Already the defense has decided that its strategy will be to focus on the government’s use of a confidential informant. Defense attorneys claim that the defendants were enticed to commit the acts of terrorism.

349_largeTo be sure, a close examination of all the facts in this case is necessary to understand exactly what happened, whether it was entrapment or a predisposed willingness on the part of the four defendants to commit such a heinous act in the name of Allah.

The proverbial elephant in the room is the prison connection. All four of the defendants, James Cromitie, Onta Williams, David Williams, and Laguerre Payen, were former inmates. Even more importantly, all three imams at the Mosque in Newburgh, which the defendants attended after being released from prison, had a connection with the prison system.

http://www.rightsidenews.com/2010083011491/us/islam-in-america/bronx-trial-shows-how-prisons-breed-terrorists.html

This is where a lot of terrorists that attack America will come from and our country is doing nothing to prevent it. Many prisons don’t serve pork now because there are so many muslims there. We keep bending over for muslims at our peril.


161 posted on 10/03/2010 6:41:42 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Not all devout Muslims are filled with hate for America...

just like there are large percentages of every religion that are 'in name only'...except most of the others dont rountinely saw off heads...

166 posted on 10/03/2010 8:48:48 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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