Posted on 09/25/2010 8:00:30 AM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan
God didn't create the universe, Stephen Hawking says in his latest book, "A Grand Design."
Rather, the renowned physicist writes, "Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing."
Everything – created from nothing? The assertion begged a reply from the author of "Nothing Created Everything: The Scientific Impossibility of Atheistic Evolution."
"It is embarrassingly unscientific to speak of anything creating itself from nothing," said Ray Comfort, a best-selling author and acclaimed minister who's confronted and confounded some of the world's most accomplished atheists. "Common sense says that if something possessed the ability to create itself from nothing, then that something wasn't nothing; it was something – a very intelligent creative power of some sort."
Hawking commits several "greater fallacies of logic," says Comfort.
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Rather, the renowned physicist writes, “Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing.”
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I will quote this to my husband when it is time for dinner. : )
Indeed, but, lucky for me, you have appeared!
For instance, what is it that you think is a scam: general relativity or special relativity?
If the milk is spoiled, the ice cream and the cheese will be, too.
Funny, my statement of belief is just as much of a statement of belief as Hawking’s belief in nothing making something.
That's the question that illustrates the limit of the mind of man.
Who made God? What came before the Big Bang? What caused the laws of physics? etc.
These are the questions that led one to realize that, ultimately, we all have to humbly live by faith.
And btw, "who made God?" "what came before the Big Bang" etc. are no where near important as "why we are here?" or "how should I treat my neighbor".
Maybe, but for the luck to mean anything you have to pick up the cards you are dealt.
Life is but a dream. (Shaboom.)
This business of something from nothing is just a language problem. Our nothing is an absence of something. For all we know, in the larger scheme there is no nothing and never was, and there are degrees of existence, some quite beyond the ken of all but God.
In any case, it’s clear Hawky is not seeing the big picture. We are not too small for God to care about. He has no limitations and can devote a billion years to listening to the prayer of a child, if it suits him to do so. We are not too numerous to the Lord, who made the numbers. Nothing created by His hand is insignificant to him, and that’s the flaw on which atheists usually rest their case. We’re supposedly too small, too brief, too insignificant; but that’s only if God is limited.
He can give each of us an entire universe if He chooses, and better yet, a personal Savior. Oh wait — He did do that!
My Nephew has two PHD’s from the University of Chicago. One is in physics and the other in something similar called Cosmology I think. (It may be spelled differently).
We were discussing Hawking and he and several of his friends who also were in the same PHD program said he was not considered all that great within the profession. Yes he is intelligent but nothing out of the ordinary for physicists.
Stune Hawking with a Beeber!
Well said. I got into an net debate with an Athiest who used the idea that “the universe is so big and we are so small in comparison” to support Athiesm. I asked him how big would the universe have to be, in comparison to humans, so that he could believe God existed.......that one stopped him cold.
“Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing.”
Wow. That’s like pre hoc ergo propter hoc. The universe was before gravity therefore exists because of it? And it had to be before gravity because the universe is everything, which subsumes gravity. I mean, you can posit a universe without gravity, but not a gravity without a universe to BE in.
Hey, Hawky — tell us the one about the universe that factors in anti-gravity!
Right. I'll put that on the list of things to meditate on.
So is that intellectual buffoon, Richard Dawkins.
Remember his performance in the movie, "Expelled?" Ben Stein impaled him on his own self-contradictory statements. He was left there with his jaw dropped and a stew brewing in his pants.
I suspect God has popped enough popcorn to pass around to on-lookers for the "End-of-Time Follies," when we'll get to watch these guys get the ultimate in "pwned."
Pass me that bucket, will ya? A little butter please, and light on the salt too....
FReegards!
I've always said that atheism requires greater faith than religion, since believers believe that which may ultimately be proven, but atheists believe that which can never be proven.
That's a great perspective. I mean, the universe is cool but basically it's just stuff. And as the fireman say, "You can always replace stuff -- the important thing is, learn not to burn!"
So I don't worry much about God's stuff and where He got it and why. I'm busy enough avoiding Hell!
I’m reminded of a great quote from Robert Jastrow’s “God and the Astronomers”:
“For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries”.
Then the "universe", or "gravity", or "whatever came before the big bang", was always there.
Sorry, but dissing Hawking for his comment and sticking God in there doesn't accomplish anything. You've only moved it one step back.
notice they can do away with God quite easily but in his place they have another entity *the universe* which does it all. Very New Age Oprahish
Stephen Hawking’s and the rest of his atheists friends will one day, be laid out in their Sunday best. While the rest of us will look at them and think, ha! “All dressed up and nowhere to go”.
Humans have a very limited capacity of understanding what this God is all about. By the very Divine nature of His Sovereignty over ALL creation and existence beyond/ruling over all dimensions (Just how many, what human math wizard knows), this God was never a fabrication to begin with. All laws of sciences, natural or theoretic of creation, based on “intelligent” humans that named them, DO NOT rule over this God. We are open to believe this or not...which goes into “lex parsimoniae” argument by atheist who do not “know all” .
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