Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Second phase of Silver Line project sees costs soar ( DC Metro train )
Washington Post ^ | September 16, 2010 | Derek Kravitz

Posted on 09/23/2010 9:37:57 PM PDT by george76

The second part of Metrorail's extension from Falls Church to Dulles International Airport and Loudoun County could cost as much as $1.3 billion more than original estimates, which may mean higher rates for people who use the Dulles Toll Road.

The new estimate was provided Wednesday to members of the Metropolitan Washington Airports Authority, which is overseeing construction. The first phase is costing $2.75 billion, the authority said. Early estimates had placed costs of the second phase in the same range. The new price range increases the cost by at least $690 million and potentially twice as much.

The plan to extend Metro's rail service deep into Northern Virginia was first developed in 2002 by state and airports officials...The second phase of the project, covering 11 1/2 miles and six stations, does not have federal funding. It is expected to be completed by December 2016. Toll road funds are expected to cover nearly 53 percent of the entire project's costs.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: dcmetro; fairfaxcounty; governmentrail; highspeedrail; iad; rail; subway; trains; unexpected
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-48 next last

1 posted on 09/23/2010 9:38:02 PM PDT by george76
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: george76
Government. Incompetence amok.
2 posted on 09/23/2010 9:45:37 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: george76
... could cost as much as $1.3 billion more than original estimates ...

Unexpected, no doubt.

3 posted on 09/23/2010 9:45:47 PM PDT by relee ('Till the blue skies drive the dark clouds far away)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: george76

$3.5 - 4 b, and all you get is 11 1/2 measly miles of track?


4 posted on 09/23/2010 9:50:05 PM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: eclecticEel

Your tax dollars at work.

Much of new burden falls on car drivers who are not using the train.


5 posted on 09/23/2010 9:57:43 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: eclecticEel

$4B apparently doesn’t go as far as it used to these days!!


6 posted on 09/23/2010 9:59:13 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: george76

I hope somebody in Hawaii’s government sees this. And if it supposedly costs that much extra in DC, you can bet it will be double what they claim and you can probably bet on a factor of 10 here on Oahu.


7 posted on 09/23/2010 10:01:28 PM PDT by BuckyKat (Green is the new red.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: george76

Well that’s never happened before.

Union Yes, eh?


8 posted on 09/23/2010 10:01:35 PM PDT by lurk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: george76

As one who utilizes cars, trucks, motorhomes, motorcycles, bicycles, airplanes, trains, subways, and ferries...I’m glad to see several forms of transportation share the load.


9 posted on 09/23/2010 10:02:23 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: eclecticEel
$3.5 - 4 b, and all you get is 11 1/2 measly miles of track?

They have to dig large holes under high-density areas that include Tyson's Corner. Presumably they are trying to avoid having any large buildings fall down in the process.

10 posted on 09/23/2010 10:12:47 PM PDT by Interesting Times (For the truth about "swift boating" see ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: george76

IBWG.


11 posted on 09/23/2010 10:31:57 PM PDT by Boogieman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Blue Jays

WHAT load?


12 posted on 09/23/2010 10:35:02 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: BuckyKat

They will be convinced they won’t run into that problem,it is like any other government agency who sees another part of the government messing something up.

It just won’t happen to them.


13 posted on 09/23/2010 10:44:47 PM PDT by Del Rapier
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: george76; Willie Green
The first phase is costing $2.75 billion, the authority said. Early estimates had placed costs of the second phase in the same range. The new price range increases the cost by at least $690 million and potentially twice as much...

So that's $4.1 billion for the second phase ($2.75 billion plus 2 x $690 million).

The second phase of the project, covering 11 1/2 miles and six stations

So that's about $360 million PER MILE. Yeah, that's a good use of funds!

I wonder what Willie Green would say? The last light rail system built in the US - Seattle's Link - was $180 million per mile. Now this is at $360 million per mile. And Willie wants to deploy tens of thousands of miles of high speed rail lines in the US? A network of 20,000 miles (2 transcontinental lines and a half-dozen N/S and long spurs) would cost $3.6 to $7.2 TRILLION. Just for the lines.

Hey Willie, those numbers sound about right?

14 posted on 09/23/2010 11:00:20 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: knarf

The load of people and products moving around any given area via ground, air, and water.


15 posted on 09/23/2010 11:03:49 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: PugetSoundSoldier

about $360 million PER MILE. Yeah, that’s a good use of funds!

8-)


16 posted on 09/23/2010 11:05:17 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: eclecticEel

They could have done this 25 years ago for far less. They didn’t because Congress was determined to keep National Open. It was their private airport.


17 posted on 09/24/2010 12:37:03 AM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: george76

Every time I get or do a cost estimate for the government I take what it should cost and multiply it by 2.5 and it usually comes out pretty close.


18 posted on 09/24/2010 2:34:25 AM PDT by maddog55 (OBAMA, You can't fix stupid...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Interesting Times

Most of this project is above ground light rail with a few portions under ground?


19 posted on 09/24/2010 2:40:35 AM PDT by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confuscius.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: dennisw

I am still trying to visualize this project. It would seem that one of the major difficulties would be crossing the interstates to get to Dulles. Once that was done, however, I don’t see the problem with aboveground transport to Dulles itself.


20 posted on 09/24/2010 3:44:03 AM PDT by Melchior
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-48 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson