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1 posted on 09/23/2010 9:46:20 AM PDT by Kaslin
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The disappearance of home equity value is a lead weight on the recovery

The same thing happened during the Hoover/Roosevelt catastrophe in the 20's/30's/40's. Home prices/values cascaded to 1/3 of their former pre-crash values. Same scenario in play today on a much larger scale.

2 posted on 09/23/2010 9:51:46 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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For every moron that paid $500,000 for a $250,000 home there is some lucky bastid that walked away with that $250,000.

For every moron that maxed out his equity and is now upside down some $250,000 there are others who benefited from the foolishness of that moron.


3 posted on 09/23/2010 9:53:45 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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If you think of your house as a place you live and not as an investment there is no “crisis.”

The “crisis” resulted from people buying more house than they could afford and then hoping to flip it — and left holding the bag when the flip would result in a loss.

Unemployment is still around 10% so that means employment is around 90% so the “unemployed through no fault of their own” meme is generally inaccurate and, more importantly, innaplicable.


4 posted on 09/23/2010 9:54:07 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (The TOTUS-Reader: omnipotence at home, impotence abroad (Weekly Standard))
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Not if one lived within one’s means. Too bad Dave Ramsey wasn’t on the air in the 80’s and early 21st Century days!
Those of us like minded and conservative did not fall into the “I Want it all, and I want it now!” mindset.


5 posted on 09/23/2010 9:54:20 AM PDT by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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Why Canada did not have a Housing Bubble

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2441083/posts

“No Fannie Mae. No Freddie Mac. No Barney Frank. No Chris Dodd.”

15 posted on Saturday, January 30, 2010 8:00:37 PM by Brilliant


6 posted on 09/23/2010 9:54:45 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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oops! 90’s


7 posted on 09/23/2010 9:55:55 AM PDT by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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Sadly, it is not just the home ownership aspect of the American dream that is being destroyed. "The Destruction of the Great American Dream".

A quick rediscovery of and return to the Founders' Principles is what Thomas Jefferson recommended in his First Inaugural Address:

"These principles form the bright constellation which has gone before us and guided our steps through an age of revolution and reformation. The wisdom of our sages and the blood of our heroes have been devoted to their attainment. They should be the creed of our political faith, the text of civic instruction, the touchstone by which to try the services of those we trust; and should we wander from them in moments of error or of alarm, let us hasten to retrace our steps and to regain the road which alone leads to peace, liberty, and safety."

For too long, our public discourse has been based on "issues" and short-term political goals, with not enough emphasis placed on how this or that question relates to a principle absolutely essential to our very liberty as a nation. We must return to the "road" described by Jefferson as he took office if liberty is to survive the assaults by both major Parties over the past 100 years.

8 posted on 09/23/2010 9:56:00 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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“However, 40 percent of households do not have a mortgage on their home,...”

http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/homeequity.htm

It’s the life’s work of the Progressives in America to trash private ownership.


10 posted on 09/23/2010 10:02:25 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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When the Democrats managed to force bad home loans by the tens of millions on the U. S. lending industry, it nearly destroyed this nation. It nearly destroyed a number of nations. It was an insidious plan.

You cause an undue burden on these lending institutions. They pass off the bad paper to other entities, spreading the exposure and immenent failure far and wide. The damage wasn’t limited to the United States either. The Western World was destabilized.

Then ours and other governments stepped in to rescue their nations, spending us all into oblivion in a matter of months.

When the loans defaulted, massive property vacancy rates caused home values to plummet. In some areas the cities are actually bull-dozing properties.

Then you get the media to trump up the failure of the Bush (A CONSERVATIVE’S) administration. “Look what he (THEY) brought upon us.”

We are trillions in debt. We have lost trillions in equity. Homes are devalued. Business vacancies are plentiful, those properties devalued.

You really have to hand it to the people who want to destroy this nation and the Western world. This one initiative was as brilliant as it could be. The best part for them, nobody who contributed to this mess has been taken to task for it. No, they’re hastily fixing it with still more ideas that will come back to haunt us in short order.

Nobody who saw it coming and didn’t do diddly squat to prevent it was seriously taken to task for it either.

Now they’re free to move on to bigger and better things, as if something bigger and better by this standard were possible. Well, handing off power to the United Nations would qualify, so I shouldn’t be too hasty.


13 posted on 09/23/2010 10:06:57 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (All hail Prince Skid-mark, Barack Hussein Obama, constantly soiling himself and our nation.)
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A lot of the "value" in residential construction has no value at all: permits, interest costs due to regulatory delay, inspections, and needless requirements to please local vendors locked into building codes add nothing to the basic needs, yet in our market, they can add to over $100,000 per house. This is money that must be borrowed and is multiplied by interest costs and taxes yet again.

When one adds the regulatory liabilities of ownership such as taxes on rainwater runoff, protection of "endangered species" such as wolves and mountain lions, or the threat of eminent domain, it is little wonder why the demand for housing becomes increasingly inelastic. The only value it had beyond shelter was as an inflation hedge or tax shelter. The former is gone, and the latter greatly diminished.

15 posted on 09/23/2010 10:14:42 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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Nothing that can’t be remedied with a bulldozer.


18 posted on 09/23/2010 10:15:49 AM PDT by j.argese (Liberal thought process = oxymoron)
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Where to start...

I was able to pull up stakes and move to Kentucky specifically because I rented. I gave my landlord 3 weeks notice and I was done.

And the median income in an area is reduced by a high percentage of citizens owning their homes. The reason is simple: People who own their own home generally limit their search for work to their local economy - even in good times. A person who rents has much more freedom to look anywhere and just move to where the good jobs exist.

Oh, and I paid $1600 a month rent on a home valued at $525k. And to really drill it in, when I left the house it was valued at about $360k. But all it cost me for four years was $1600 a month. A relative pittance.


21 posted on 09/23/2010 10:27:46 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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Who can even own a home?? maybe a so called native American! The rest just rent from the Marxist government.


22 posted on 09/23/2010 10:28:39 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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The pressure to meet mortgage payments on homes that have lost value has been especially shocking—and unjust—for the millions of unemployed through no fault of their own.

Huh? It's unjust to have to honor your mortgage contract? I stopped reading right there.

24 posted on 09/23/2010 10:37:09 AM PDT by pabianice
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along with access to a good free education.

Zuckerman you idiot, it ain't 'free'.

27 posted on 09/23/2010 10:54:07 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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About 11 million residential properties, or about 23 percent of such properties with mortgages, have mortgage balances that exceed the home's value.

Well, I guess we are lucky. Our home is worth almost twice what we paid for it in 1990, and paid it off almost two years ago. We did NOT buy more than we could afford as a single earner household.

28 posted on 09/23/2010 10:59:16 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Remember in November. Clean the house on Nov. 2. / Progressive is a PC word for liberal democrat.)
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“”The pressure to meet mortgage payments on homes that have lost value has been especially shocking—and unjust—for the millions of unemployed..”

Meeting a contractual obligation is Unjust? Who Knew?


29 posted on 09/23/2010 10:59:57 AM PDT by Pessimist
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the american delusion is what the housing market was for the last 20 years.

All mirages must vanish.

31 posted on 09/23/2010 11:09:58 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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I can't for the life of me understand why some of these morons would buy a home and go into debt up to their eye balls. I mean really...becoming a literal slave to one’s house is shear stupidity! Personally, I believe in living well within one’s means. Buy what one can actually afford; the hell with the “bling” and trying to keep up with the “Jones’” - Drowning in house debt is not living a life of pleasure to me. Oh well, if that's what their idea of “success” is, being measured by a “pretty” house with lots of “bling” then you deserve every bit of the high mortgage that comes with it and the heart ache as well.
50 posted on 09/23/2010 12:37:01 PM PDT by Jim Shoe
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bttt


53 posted on 09/23/2010 1:04:02 PM PDT by Pagey (B. Hussein Obama has no experience running anything, except his pedestrian mouth.)
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