'Rapid' 2010 melt for Arctic ice - but no record

BBC News ^ | 16 September 2010 | Richard Black

[neverdem]

Ice floating on the Arctic Ocean melted unusually quickly this year, but did not shrink down to the record minimum area seen in 2007.

That is the preliminary finding of US scientists who say the summer minimum seems to have passed and the ice has entered its winter growth phase.

2010's summer Arctic ice minimum is the third smallest in the satellite era.

Researchers say projections of summer ice disappearing entirely within the next few years increasingly look wrong...

[CobraJet]

The “National Snow and Ice Data Center”?? Never heard of it. Wonder how may govt. employees are there?

[rarestia]

I’m hearing tripe from NOAA and other gov’t agencies that “this was the 4th warmest summer of all time” and “this is the second biggest ice melt in history.”

Ok, so my question is, when did record keeping start? Are we talking about 20 years? 50? 100? If this is one a 100 year continuum, then I’ll take notice. Otherwise, these numbers are simply hyperbole to buttress the AGW idiots out there.

[Army Air Corps]

Ping.

[GalaxieFiveHundred]

Ice melting in the summer, with 20 hours of sunshine?!

[Bulwinkle]

“third smallest in the satellite era”???

Knock on wood... it is still dicey:
http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/extent/AMSRE_Sea_Ice_Extent.png

[Mojave]

They are hiring.

http://nsidc.org/about/jobs/index.html

[muawiyah]

It’s a university coop project ~ I suppose the COTR knows where it is, but the employees are likely grad students keying data into the computer where the data is kept. SEE: http://nsidc.org/

[steelyourfaith]

Thanx Army Air Corps !

 

Beam me to Planet Gore !

[Tzimisce]

The BBC has its pension stock in “Green” technology.

[USFRIENDINVICTORIA]

Expect to see more summer-time stories about "rapid melt" of arctic sea ice. What you won't see is an explanation.

New sea ice is briny -- it's frozen salt water. As it ages, the salt leaves the sea ice. Old sea ice is fresh water. Briny ice melts at a lower temperature than fresh-water ice. Therefore, new ice melts rapidly, and old ice tends to stick around.

If you study the following chart, you will notice that a lot of new ice was formed in 2008 and 2009. In turn, a lot of this new ice melted off in the summer of 2010. However, there's still more ice now, than there was at this time in 2007 and 2008. If that additional ice doesn't melt next summer, it will become "old" ice -- and be more likely to stick around in following years.

The trend line was broken in 2008. It may now be trending up. We won't hear much about this. We will hear lots about ice melting in the spring. We will be left with the impression that it's unusual for ice to melt in the summer.

If the extent of sea ice falls to below the 2007 level, we will hear endless stories about that. And the stories might even have a valid point -- showing a long-term downward trend. So long as the trend line is actually pointing upward, all that the warmists, and their media allies have left; is to wail about "rapid melting" each summer.

The chart below is from this site: http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/en/home/seaice_extent.htm

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[PATRIOT1876]

Big Deal!

I’ve stopped believing anything the AGW liars and carbon credit profiteers have been saying for years.

They need to stop fawning over the Emperor’s new clothes. The kid spoke up a long time ago.

[editor-surveyor]

If this is true, it would indicate higher ocean temps, which portend for longer, colder winters with higher precipitation.

Buy parkas and raincoats.

[Condor51]

Researchers say projections of summer ice disappearing entirely within the next few years increasingly look wrong...

"Gee. Ya think."

[CobraJet]

Says the NSIDC has been around since 1976. Founded, no doubt, to study global cooling way back then.

[Jack Wilson]

Warmers think the earth is 100 years old. That is why they consider temperature trends for the last few years significant.

[PMAS]

That damn Global Warming again, sorry, I mean that damn Global Climate Disruption again. It’s gonna take some getting used to.

[aruanan]

'Rapid' 2010 melt for Arctic ice - but no record

The 2010 Arctic melt has been "one of the shortest in recent memory."

[annie laurie]

Sorry to bump my own thread, but I just couldn’t resist:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2419703/posts