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Not a very good result from Battleground, which is usually pretty favorable for the GOP.
1 posted on 09/16/2010 5:48:20 AM PDT by gumbyandpokey
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To: gumbyandpokey

This is so “out there” compared to other polls though.


2 posted on 09/16/2010 5:54:05 AM PDT by RockinRight (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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I’ll stick with Rass. since his polling seems to be the most consistent. besides the libs typically have held a minimum of 4 points more in generic balloting throughout the years. In other words a 50-50 split is actually BAD news for the Left. Gallup has the Rep up 5 points this week and Rass has them up about 9.

The enthusiasm is with the Rep this time and enthusiasm translates to votes. It does no good to SAY you will vote for someone if you don’t actually get out and do it.


4 posted on 09/16/2010 5:58:00 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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We pretty much have been relying on pre-Labor Day polls. Now, that people start to pay attention to politics and the Dhims with their MSM friends work extra hard to portray the Republicans as ‘extreme’, things are not going to be as rosy as in early Summer. I still expect us to win the House, but it’s not going to be as easy as some people seem to believe.


5 posted on 09/16/2010 5:58:13 AM PDT by paudio (The Democrats have been majority in Congress since 2006, not 2008!)
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GWU polling is heavily biased towards liberals and Battleground uses other polling sources as well depending on what it is they are trying to accomplish.


8 posted on 09/16/2010 6:00:12 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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I think this might explain their disparate results:

One reason may be the disparate levels of voter enthusiasm. Ninety-five percent of those surveyed who usually vote Republican said they were extremely or very likely to vote in November. For usual Democratic voters, 87 percent said the same.

It sounds like, for the purpose of their "generic ballot", they didn't weight the results for the probability of people showing up at the polls (likely voters). Sounds more like they used the filter "usual Democratic Voters", even though 13 percent of them weren't going to show up, vs 95% for republicans -- an 8-point margin.

And who knows what they did with independents.

9 posted on 09/16/2010 6:01:28 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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It would be interesting to see there polling history for past generic race polls. The poll on expected to win sometimes reveals the true leaning when people are afraid to identify their vote.


10 posted on 09/16/2010 6:04:26 AM PDT by Raycpa
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/generic_congressional_vote-901.html
I go here to see ALL the polls.

I don’t count the votes until election day is over..but I like to see th trends.


13 posted on 09/16/2010 6:05:44 AM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military Men And Women)
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http://www.politico.com/static/PPM152_100915_goeas_analysis.html
“...In addition, this survey finds the generic Congressional ballot tied (43%-43%). On this generic ballot, Republicans hold significant advantages with key demographic groups like seniors (52%-33%), those who disapprove of the work of both parties in Congress (55%-25%), and those who are extremely likely to vote (46%-40%). Most importantly, when looking at the turnout model of likely 2010 voters, the generic ballot moves to 50% Republican and 42% Democratic – an eight-point advantage. ..”


14 posted on 09/16/2010 6:06:05 AM PDT by mrsmith
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No, the Generic poll almost always favors the Dems. That is because voter registration heavily favors the Dems so the polls are weighted with he idea more D over all will vote then Rs.

It was tied like this going into 1994 elections. This is really bad news for the Dems

16 posted on 09/16/2010 6:07:09 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is sooner or later you run out of other people's money. Lady Thatcher)
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Battleground is a good pollster, but this seems to be a poll of registered voters, not likely voters, making it pretty worthless this close to the election


22 posted on 09/16/2010 6:16:56 AM PDT by jaguar21
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Reads like statistical convolution based on a 2008 demographic polling. There’s way too much fuzzy here for me to get a reading.


24 posted on 09/16/2010 6:29:58 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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These two pollsters seem to work well together.

Republicans had better take note: NOTHING is guaranteed. Obama’s agenda must be crushed, so we need to quit cutting each others throats...and quit thinking we’ve got this election “in the bag”. We don’t.


25 posted on 09/16/2010 6:30:39 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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Roughly one poll in twenty will produce results outside the margin of error. This poll obviously is one of those outliers. End of story. Nothing to see here folks. Move on.


27 posted on 09/16/2010 6:42:42 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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Sounds like this poll only sampled people living at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. By next week Obamski should have all the dissenters out of HIS house and, while the unemployment numbers will uptick slightly, the polls will be more favorable to the DemocRATs... /sarc


28 posted on 09/16/2010 6:44:10 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July, democrats believe every day is April 15.)
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In the West — defined as Alaska, California, Hawaii, Oregon and Washington — Democrats hold a blowout 51-31 generic advantage.

Yeah...right.

31 posted on 09/16/2010 6:55:51 AM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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This is NOT the Lake/Goes Battleground Poll. IIRC - That is only done for presidential races.

This is the liberal Politico/ George Washington University "Battleground" poll.

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35 posted on 09/16/2010 7:43:58 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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Oops. I stand corrected. Didn't read far enough.

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36 posted on 09/16/2010 7:45:04 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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Politico, good little lap dogs they are, are trying to sell a scenario where ANYTHING less than taking House and Senate is a calamitous defeat for the GOP.


37 posted on 09/16/2010 7:46:36 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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Sorry wrong , Battleground shifted to the Left in 2008 and is very pro Dem party .


38 posted on 09/16/2010 7:57:07 AM PDT by ncalburt (e)
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Your sign in date indicates you might be fairly new. Let me explain about posting polls hear. In general all polls that show what we want to hear are good and all polls that do not show what we want are bad.

You may not be aware that generic polls trend strongly toward democrats so much so that even a tie is very bad news for the democrats. Also, that the generic polls are a better forecast the further we are from an election. They are useful tools to get the mood of the people when no one knows who the candidates will be. The closer we get to election day more people have names and parties they identify and to get a better picture one needs to look at the sum total of individual races. So as time progresses, the generic poll will be a lesser predictor than the individual polls.

My view is to consider each poll as good unless things that make you question. First, I’d like to see how the trend is going for the particular pollster. The trend is important and likely more accurate. For example, following the trend of this poll in the next several weeks may be more revealing. It may be that this polls base line is different than the others but still reveal a major win for republicans.

Second, when internal information in the poll is contradicting it causes me to look for reasons. When this polls shows we have expectations out of sink with what each says they will do we have the possibility the people are lying to the pollsters or that the pollsters have a flawed poll.

Third, when there is a major shift in energy of the voters it becomes very difficult for the pollsters to identify likely voters. This election has me confused because we are seeing many signs that the pollsters are missing the likely voter ratios because the polls going into primaries have been off. The pollsters may not have a handle on the likely voters yet. Each time they do a poll they are gathering data to help them determine likely voters and can adjust accordingly. Other pollsters may have better data for determining that key assumption.


41 posted on 09/16/2010 8:02:13 AM PDT by Raycpa
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