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Greenspan: Fiscal Stimulus Worked Far Less Than Expected
WSJ Online ^ | 15 September 2010 | Michael S. Derby

Posted on 09/15/2010 10:43:51 AM PDT by Fractal Trader

The former head of the Federal Reserve said fiscal stimulus efforts have fallen far short of expectations, and the government now needs to get out of the way and allow businesses and markets to power the recovery.

“We have to find a way to simmer down the extent of activism that is going on” with government stimulus spending “and allow the economy to heal” itself, former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan told a gathering held at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York on Wednesday.

Bloomberg News Former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan At this point, “we’d probably be better off doing less than more” because “you’d be far better off to allow the normal market forces to operate here,” Greenspan said. That’s largely because stimulus spending is not proving as effective as many had hoped. “To the extent the evidence suggests very large deficits concurrently crowd out capital investment, there is a debit to the stimulus program that is somewhere between a third and a half of what the gross stimulus is,” he said.

Greenspan was Fed chairman from 1987 to 2006, and was succeeded by current central bank chief Ben Bernanke. Greenspan’s tenure at the Fed was defined by his opposition to government regulation and his confidence that markets would discipline themselves.

To many, the financial crisis was largely born of that ideology, and to some degree, Greenspan has himself said he overestimated the market’s willingness to understand and price for risk. Greenspan has also been widely accused of running an overly easy monetary policy during the early years of the last decade, in turn providing the fuel that powered the housing bubble, the rupturing of which drove the worst recession in generations.

Greenspan’s comments came in response to moderator and audience questions, and were accordingly wide-ranging.

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1 posted on 09/15/2010 10:43:52 AM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: Fractal Trader

“Fiscal Stimulus Worked Far Less Than Expected”

The money was spent, where is it? Someone has to have it.


2 posted on 09/15/2010 10:45:30 AM PDT by edcoil (Man can do the most amazing things if they have the most amazing things to do.)
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To: Fractal Trader

Wow...if there were a Nobel for understatements he would be on the top of the list.....


3 posted on 09/15/2010 10:46:51 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Fractal Trader

Greenspan - the a$$ho!e who said that tax cuts don’t increase revenue.

Hang it up Greenjeans!


4 posted on 09/15/2010 10:47:40 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim
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To: edcoil

The money was spent, where is it? Someone has to have it.

Well, for one, didn’t the major ivy league universities, you know, the commie training grounds, get hefty checks?


5 posted on 09/15/2010 10:48:20 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Fractal Trader

Captain Obvious strikes again.


6 posted on 09/15/2010 10:48:20 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2
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To: Fractal Trader

I feel that Greenspan’s intellect is overrated


7 posted on 09/15/2010 10:48:55 AM PDT by conservativebuckeye
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To: Fractal Trader

How dare Greenspan say this about the stimulus. He must hate uncircumcised African men.


8 posted on 09/15/2010 10:49:39 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: Fractal Trader

“Worked Far Less Than Expected”

a.k.a. “failed”


9 posted on 09/15/2010 10:49:59 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: Fractal Trader
In one year, Congress created and topped off more slush funds for future use then we will ever know. We will be running into those Trillions that have been stashed away by Democrats for rainy days for a decade or more. Money does not just dry up and blow away.
10 posted on 09/15/2010 10:50:03 AM PDT by WyvernAK (Knowledge is Power, ie Obama is in trouble)
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To: Fractal Trader
I think a Keynesian stimulus worked better when the population was far less imformed. Now more people see government pissing away a few hundred billion dollars they know that money is coming from somewhere, either taxes, excess borrowing, or inflationary creation of money which nibbles a little from every single dollar bill in the country. Since they know that, they are more likely to tighten their own belts and the grip on their wallets providing an inhibitory effect in response to the government's stimulus attempt. In the extreme, stimulus spending could even eliminate more non-government spending than the government itself spends, thus producing an instant depressive effect. Back in Keynes time the goverment might have been able to get away with just tossing dollar bills off the back of a truck without anyone asking tough questions about it, but not any more.
11 posted on 09/15/2010 10:51:58 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Gun control was originally to protect Klansmen from their victims. The basic reason hasn't changed.)
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To: edcoil

The money was spent, where is it? Someone has to have it.

Well, we know that $800,000 went to clean foreskin of penises in African males to help prevent the spread of HIV. I am sure that worked. The rest? I don’t know but look for similar projects to appear.


12 posted on 09/15/2010 10:53:01 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: conservativebuckeye
I feel that Greenspan’s intellect is overrated

He was like the kid on the front car of a roller coaster claiming to be the engineer driving it.

13 posted on 09/15/2010 10:54:20 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Gun control was originally to protect Klansmen from their victims. The basic reason hasn't changed.)
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To: Fractal Trader
government now needs to get out of the way and allow businesses and markets to power the recovery

Now? NOW!? How about they should have done that in the first place instead of the gummint trying to force things and throwing money at its friends??

14 posted on 09/15/2010 11:02:55 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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To: Fractal Trader

funny...stimulus failure was fully expected here on freerepublic.


15 posted on 09/15/2010 11:04:24 AM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Fractal Trader

if you mean going into negative digits “far less” then yes, I guess so


16 posted on 09/15/2010 11:04:44 AM PDT by Mr. K (Physically unable to proofreed (<---oops! see?))
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To: Fractal Trader

Well, the problem is that they didn’t spend enough....

Just saw a Porkulus project in Maryville, TN where they are building a freeway pedestrian overpass WHERE THERE AREN’T ANY PEDESTRIANS! They had to clear a lot of roadside undergrowth near the road just to put it in. There aren’t a lot of houses or shopping or parks or ANYTHING around it!


17 posted on 09/15/2010 11:19:59 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: eCSMaster

Tax cuts themselves don’t cause revenues to go up (because if you cut them to 0% you would get 0 income)

It is the fact that we are OVERTAXED and it is draining the economy, that makes tax cuts increase revenue.

Here is how:

Two men in a closed system, one has $100 the other has $0.

The benevolent government steps in to ‘help’ the poor man and takes $40 from the evil rich person to proved ‘welfare’ for the poor man.

RESULT: There is still $100 in the system, and 2 unmotivated workers. The rich man is upset he works so hard and does not get to enjoy his money. The poor man is unmotivated to work since he is getting money for free.

Now take the same 2 workers-
But the rich man HIRES the poor man to build him a boat for $40.

RESULT: There is $140 in the system.
The rich man has his $60 left and a new $40 boat. The poor man has $40 and a job.

Uncle Sam gets to tax $140 in various ways. and it is ALL INCOME TO THE GOVERNMENT

They dont have to take it from person 1 and give it away to person 2, so they can build roads and bridges and stuff, instead of welfare.

That is a grossly over simplified explanation of the dangers of the welfare state and socialism.


18 posted on 09/15/2010 11:49:49 AM PDT by Mr. K (Physically unable to proofreed (<---oops! see?))
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To: Fractal Trader
Greenspan: Fiscal Stimulus Worked Far Less Than Expected

Journalists are finally earning their money. The headline doesn't say "unexpected", thanks to some creative writing and the expansion of their vocabulary. My impression from FR is that about 99% of the people here expected exactly what we saw from the stimulus (the other 1% are trolls). The money is gone, and the economy is worse than under predictions for no stimulus.

19 posted on 09/15/2010 12:55:33 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: edcoil
The money was spent, where is it? Someone has to have it.

Off Shore Banking?....for the use of DNC campaigning? UNIONS have been paid off but apparently want more...Oh yes! the teachers demanded and got a pile of money didn't they....ummmmmmm Lavish living at the White House...Uh Huh....ummmmmm Spanish vacations, Bo's trip to Martha's Vineyard? His own plane? Naw...couldn't be. Obama's tax cheating Secretary of the Treasury maybe knows where some of it went....Kenya got a boat load recently.....

20 posted on 09/15/2010 3:00:58 PM PDT by yoe ("N" is for NO for Progressives in government.)
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