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Student Loan Defaults Are Still Rising (defaults at for-profit colleges rising the fastest)
New York Times ^ | 09/13/2010 | Tamar Lewin

Posted on 09/13/2010 12:27:21 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

The student loan default rate continued to rise in fiscal year 2008, the latest period for which data is available, with default rates for students at for-profit colleges — already the highest — rising the fastest.

Education Secretary Arne Duncan announced Monday morning that the overall student loan default rate for fiscal year 2008 was 7 percent, up from 6.7 percent the previous year.

The rates increased to 6 percent from 5.9 percent at public institutions, to 4 percent from 3.7 percent for private institutions and to 11.6 percent from 11 percent for for-profit institutions.

The default rates represent a snapshot in time, including only those borrowers whose first loan repayments came due from Oct. 1, 2007, to Sept. 30, 2008, and who defaulted before Sept. 30, 2009. Those who defaulted later were not included in the data; over time, default rates increase substantially.

During the period in question, almost 3.4 million borrowers entered repayment, and more than 238,000 defaulted on their loans.

“This data confirms what we already know: that many students are struggling to pay back their student loans during very difficult economic times,” Mr. Duncan said, in a statement Monday. “The data also tells us that students attending for-profit schools are the most likely to default. While for-profit schools have profited and prospered thanks to federal dollars, some of their students have not. Far too many for-profit schools are saddling students with debt they cannot afford in exchange for degrees and certificates they cannot use.”

In award year 2008-09, students at for-profit schools represented 26 percent of the borrowers — but 43 percent of the defaulters. The median federal student loan debt for students earning associate degrees at for-profit institutions was $14,000.

Most community college students do not take out student loans.

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KEYWORDS: college; default; studentloan
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1 posted on 09/13/2010 12:27:31 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

According to the news, Obama is proposing a law designed to protect students from debt they cannot repay by REQUIRING for-profit institutions to prepare students for “gainful employment” or risk losing access to federal student aid.


2 posted on 09/13/2010 12:29:18 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
REQUIRING for-profit institutions to prepare students for “gainful employment”

What does that even mean?

3 posted on 09/13/2010 12:31:24 PM PDT by rhombus
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To: SeekAndFind

colleges have been sanctioned to collect extorsion fees since I was college age


4 posted on 09/13/2010 12:34:01 PM PDT by SF_Redux
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I was talking to my nephew who graduated last May and is getting first hand experience with the crappy job market. He said that among his friends there is the feeling that with all the mortgage, car payment, and student loan defaults Obama is going to be forced to wipe every ones credit scores. So a lot of his friends are just defaulting figuring that when Obama Zero’s the accounts they will be smiling all the way to the bank. He of course was smart enough to realize that if they don’t clear the scores anyone who defaulted is going to be screwed.


5 posted on 09/13/2010 12:38:53 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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Also on the top of the hour news proganda on the radio Obamas voice came on and said that the Federal Gov. will be giving lots of funding to “Historically Black Colleges” Not sure what else he said as I screamed out a bunch of not so flattering names for Obama and truned off the radio


6 posted on 09/13/2010 12:40:14 PM PDT by funfan
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Can you or anybody tell me what a “for-profit” college is ?

Aren’t all private colleges for profit ?


7 posted on 09/13/2010 12:43:18 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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RE: “Historically Black Colleges”


According to Wikipedia : Historically black colleges and universities (HBCUs) are institutions of higher education in the United States that were established before 1964 with the intention of serving the black community.

There are 105 historically black colleges and universities (HBCU) in the United States today, including public and private, two-year and four-year institutions, medical schools and community colleges.

All are or were in the former slave states and territories of the U.S. except for Central State University (Ohio), Cheyney University of Pennsylvania, Lewis College of Business (Detroit, Michigan), Lincoln University (Pennsylvania), Wilberforce University (Ohio), and now-defunct Western University (Kansas).


8 posted on 09/13/2010 12:45:31 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: funfan

RE: “Historically Black Colleges”


According to Wikipedia : Historically black colleges and universities (HBCUs) are institutions of higher education in the United States that were established before 1964 with the intention of serving the black community.

There are 105 historically black colleges and universities (HBCU) in the United States today, including public and private, two-year and four-year institutions, medical schools and community colleges.

All are or were in the former slave states and territories of the U.S. except for Central State University (Ohio), Cheyney University of Pennsylvania, Lewis College of Business (Detroit, Michigan), Lincoln University (Pennsylvania), Wilberforce University (Ohio), and now-defunct Western University (Kansas).


9 posted on 09/13/2010 12:46:47 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: funfan

RE: “Historically Black Colleges”


According to Wikipedia : Historically black colleges and universities (HBCUs) are institutions of higher education in the United States that were established before 1964 with the intention of serving the black community.

There are 105 historically black colleges and universities (HBCU) in the United States today, including public and private, two-year and four-year institutions, medical schools and community colleges.

All are or were in the former slave states and territories of the U.S. except for Central State University (Ohio), Cheyney University of Pennsylvania, Lewis College of Business (Detroit, Michigan), Lincoln University (Pennsylvania), Wilberforce University (Ohio), and now-defunct Western University (Kansas).


10 posted on 09/13/2010 12:46:47 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To all those unemployed defaulters who majored in Lesbian Womens Studies. What were you thinking?!!!


11 posted on 09/13/2010 12:47:24 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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“”Can you or anybody tell me what a “for-profit” college is ?

Aren’t all private colleges for profit ?””

Pretty much. Univ. of Phoenix. National University etc. as opposed to state schools or catholic schools which i believe are non-profit status too.

there’s no such thing as default on a student loan, you can’t give it back. You just can’t make payments and the interest increased until you just don’t care.


12 posted on 09/13/2010 12:48:03 PM PDT by DreamingWest
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This hurts Diane Feinstein’s husband, Ron Bloom, who owns ITT Tech, so it makes me smile...until we bail him out with tax dollars.


13 posted on 09/13/2010 12:54:16 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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Colleges and university registrars and counselors play a role. Not even Wall Street is as greedy as some of these institutions. Today they don't encourage students to work or to use cheaper campus housing, they direct the students to loan applications.

Also, many of these students with horrendous loans have parents who can afford to pay all or part of the college expenses but don't want to change their big spending lifestyle.(three kids - five or more cars in the driveway, very expensive vacations, party-party-party, etc.)

14 posted on 09/13/2010 1:00:35 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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This is just another approach to put private education out of business...this is such a circus...


15 posted on 09/13/2010 1:01:41 PM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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RE: This is just another approach to put private education out of business


Actually I see a slow but sure TAKEOVER of private education. If it can happen to GM, Chrysler and Citibank, why not to colleges ?


16 posted on 09/13/2010 1:03:43 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Not all private colleges are "for profit." Many church funded private schools are subsidized to some extent by gifts from the churches and private individuals and simply try to set tuition so that the budget balances. A friend of mine is facilities manager at one of these and has told me of the efforts that undertake to reduce costs. They realize that they cannot continue to keep raising the tuition. I suppose some private institutions can be what is classically thought of as "for profit" where investors provide the working capital and expect a return on investment.
17 posted on 09/13/2010 1:03:56 PM PDT by RochesterFan
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Question: Do they consider the Ivy League schools as for-profit colleges or not ?


18 posted on 09/13/2010 1:05:22 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Aren’t all private colleges for profit ?

No, most private colleges are non-profit institutions. A for-profit institute is one like DeVry Electronics or a lot of the "Trade" Schools that claim to provide some kind of certificate or degree that will qualify people for various jobs. Some of these for-profit institutions are little more than a sham that issues worthless certificates while taking your federally subsidized loan for their artificially inflated tuition and fees.

19 posted on 09/13/2010 1:10:26 PM PDT by VRWCmember (Jesus called us to be Salt and Light, not Vinegar and Water.)
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The vast majority of private colleges in the US are non-profit, including the Ivy League schools.

This provision, if it passes, will apply to all colleges and universities, but it’s aimed at for-profits, who have been proven to (in general) have very high tuition, gain up to 90% of their tuitions dollars from federal financial aid, and then have students with the highest default rates. It will eliminate those schools who are the worst offenders from participating in the federal aid programs. The for-profits are spending millions to stop this.


20 posted on 09/13/2010 1:10:37 PM PDT by Hawk720
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