Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Would pay-to-drive solve congestion problems?
WTOP ^ | Monday, September 12, 2010 | Evan Haning

Posted on 09/13/2010 8:15:34 AM PDT by Willie Green

WASHINGTON - Imagine having to pay to travel on most of the major roads in the region.

The idea creating 1,650 miles of "variably priced" lanes on Capital Beltway, Interstates 270, 66 and 95, Route 50, the George Washington Parkway and others, is being floated as a "what-if" scenario by area transportation officials.

"Congestion is a major threat to the economic vitality of the region and the quality of life its residents enjoy," says a new report from the National Capital Region Transportation Planning Board.

Charging a variable toll to drive major commuter routes would increase speeds 15 mph to 20 mph on average, according to estimates. Officials say that widespread tolls would help minimize their overall cost.

"This is not a proposal, it's a 'what if' study that provides very interesting insight into the implications of tolling for our region," says Arlington County Board Member Chris Zimmerman.

The report emphasizes that this analysis is "designed to elicit discussion, not to provide conclusive answers."

Other "what if" scenarios explore the expansion of bus service, changing patterns of development and the impact of workers moving closer to their jobs.

The National Capital Region Transportation Planning Board meets Wednesday to discuss the report.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: bloomberg; fail; homelandsecurity; liberalfascism; obama; taxes; traffic
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-82 next last

1 posted on 09/13/2010 8:15:36 AM PDT by Willie Green
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Willie Green

Perhaps...but it sounds an awful lot like proposals to force people to the city.

What do they expect people to do? NOT drive to work? Not everyone lives 3 minutes from a Metro stop!


2 posted on 09/13/2010 8:17:21 AM PDT by RockinRight (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Willie Green
Only bureaucrats, fools and idiots will support this plan. It is simply another tax raising plan, thinly disguised.
3 posted on 09/13/2010 8:18:34 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RockinRight

How about that we test this idea on registered Democrats and democrat lobbyists who live or work in the capital area?


4 posted on 09/13/2010 8:20:11 AM PDT by earlJam
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: RockinRight

These self-centered governmental morons will do ANYTHING to get more money for their lame-brained ideas and programs. Haven’t people already “paid” to build and use the roads????????? Vote out their masters. Starve the beast.


5 posted on 09/13/2010 8:20:27 AM PDT by hal ogen (1st amendment or reeducation camp?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: RockinRight
Not everyone lives 3 minutes from a Metro stop!

Even a 20 minute drive to Metro is better than 45 minutes stuck in gridlock.

6 posted on 09/13/2010 8:20:46 AM PDT by Willie Green (Some people march to a different drummer – and some people polka.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Willie Green
We already pay to drive on public roads. It's called "Fuel taxes".

This is another idiot scheme cooked up by Socialists to force people into behavior they approve of. The proponents of this 'plan' should be dragged into the streets, tarred and feathered, and then run out of town on a rail.

7 posted on 09/13/2010 8:20:47 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Willie Green
ahhh - we already ‘pay to drive’

when we buy gas, when we register our cars, tolls, etc.

Unless stopped, the socialists won't stop until they get 90% of our income in taxes and fees. THEY, who produce NOTHING, and get double and more in their pay checks and the very best of benefits - all paid from OUR POCKETS look upon OUR paychecks as THEIR money -

‘tis a puzzlement.

8 posted on 09/13/2010 8:21:29 AM PDT by maine-iac7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Willie Green
being floated as a "what-if" scenario by area transportation taxation officials.

Fixed.

Transportation i.e. efficient - and ACCEPTABLE TO USERS - means of moving people and goods seems to be well down the list of priorities to these so-called officials. Instead, they pursue one square-peg-round-hole 'solution' after another.

9 posted on 09/13/2010 8:22:23 AM PDT by relictele (Me lumen vos umbra regit)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Willie Green
WASHINGTON - Imagine having to pay tax payers to file returns.

The idea creating payment to tax payers to file, is being floated as a "what-if" scenario by officials.

There fixed it!

10 posted on 09/13/2010 8:22:36 AM PDT by Lockbox
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Lurker
"It's called "Fuel taxes"

Correct-a-mundo. It's also called Registration fees. We already pay for the roads 20 different ways.

11 posted on 09/13/2010 8:23:19 AM PDT by moehoward
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: RockinRight
ut it sounds an awful lot like proposals to force people to the city.

In case you haven't noticed, WG is a proponent of the UN proposal Agenda 21 to do exactly that.
Thats what all of his choo choo articles are about.

This sound like a conservative?

“The “invisible hand” also provides us with the world's most diseased prostitutes, the most violent drug dealers and the most bizarre perverts and pornographers.

"Thank God our Founding Fathers empowered our Federal Government to place restraints on the savage excesses of a “market economy””

12 posted on 09/13/2010 8:25:39 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Willie Green

The ONLY thing this would do is create heavy traffic on side streets resulting in lots more road construction to widen streets ( do I smell more union pay-offs? )


13 posted on 09/13/2010 8:26:00 AM PDT by marstegreg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Willie Green

It just shows how brilliant the folks that plan road construction projects are: “Let’s work on every single road at the exact same time!”

Oh wait - It’s an election year, so in reality it’s just another ploy to make the taxpaying suckers think their tax dollars are actually being used for something instead of paying for illegal aliens and their anchor babies.


14 posted on 09/13/2010 8:26:18 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Vote McCarthy (MA-6)/Bielat (MA-4). MA-4 is Bwaney's district.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Willie Green
We all ready pay for the roads with our fuel taxes. There is utterly no justification to pay for them again.

Instead the Progressive Fascist political machine can simply quit skimming money off those funds to pay for their "green" mass transit schemes.

If these "Mass Transit" schemes are so desirable, they should be justifiable to the votes as stand alone projects instead of being the hidden parasites living off the gas tax fund.

15 posted on 09/13/2010 8:28:38 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is sooner or later you run out of other people's money. Lady Thatcher)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Willie Green

Growth of centralized government means increased traffic congestion for DC.

What is the traffic like in DC on a day that is a Federal holiday?

How about we just cut down the size of government and all those bureaucrats to ease the traffic problems?


16 posted on 09/13/2010 8:29:03 AM PDT by smokingfrog (freerepublic.com - Thanks JimRob! The flags are back! - 8/17/2010.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Willie Green

People are now considered a sort of tolerated infection or parasite on government. We exist at their pleasure only insofar as useful to the collection of revenue.


17 posted on 09/13/2010 8:29:45 AM PDT by SpaceBar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: GOPsterinMA

BEST CASE scenario, it would work like this:

At first, 30% or so of drivers who have an alternate route will take it, or take public transport, relieving some traffic on the highway in question.

The other 70% have no other viable choice and are asked to bend over and pay.

After a few months of “traffic is so much better now,” the other 30% will decide it’s worth it to pay the toll, and start doing so, making the road congested again.

Voila. Traffic still bad, and government coffers now full of toll cash.


18 posted on 09/13/2010 8:30:31 AM PDT by RockinRight (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Willie Green

Firing 2/3 of the bureaucrats would solve ALL their congestion problems.


19 posted on 09/13/2010 8:31:15 AM PDT by jimt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Willie Green

We pay through the nose now, it’s caklled GAS TAXES, ?State and Federal!

They are probably higher now but in 1974 they were 86% from ground to pump!!


20 posted on 09/13/2010 8:31:23 AM PDT by dalereed
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-82 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson