Posted on 09/11/2010 12:28:58 PM PDT by geraldmcg
Marine General Goes on Record With Concerns About Outing
Perhaps its a stretch to say it could lead to a defeat from within some day. But if you listen to the recent statement put forth by a high-ranking Marine Corps official, repealing the Dont Ask, Dont Tell policy prohibiting openly gay individuals from serving in the military has some undeniable risks.
Standing before the press, Marine Commandant General James Conway (pictured) candidly laid out his concerns. In so many words (see the link below), he indicated that potentially having an openly gay soldier bunking with another soldier who, by religious faith, cannot accept homosexuality, threatens to undermine the bonding effect among troops that is a vital intangible in combat.
Gordon James Klingenschmitt is a former chaplain in the U.S. Navy, offering a unique depth of understanding about the religious dynamics of the military.
As a former Navy Chaplain who has had to counsel soldiers in confidence, I know firsthand the dangers of allowing any kind of sexual immorality to run rampant among the troops. My organization (at www.prayinjesusname.org/) has gathered petitions and sent over 130,000 faxes to Congress, directing them to keep Dont Ask, Dont Tell, and stop open homosexual aggression from hurting our troops. It will cost lives in war.
Bob Beauprez is a former Colorado Congressman (R), now political commentator, who, like many Americans, is desperate to see common sense override political correctnessespecially in the one-of-a-kind, no-nonsense environment that is military defense.
If, in fact, the corps is going to be forced to accept openly gay troops, then the rights, values and beliefs of all the troops should be respected. Conway doubtlessly understands how volatile the comradery is among soldiers, sailors and marines, particularly in battle conditions. Hes looking for a way, as he should be, to minimize the potential for internal conflict. Our military has been forced to accept too many political directives that dont make sense on the battlefield. This should not be another one of the same mistakes. And Conway owes it to our soldiers to speak his mind on this publicly.
http://www.military.com/news/article/conway-moral-concerns-in-gay-billeting.html
uh like not always........female captain, and the SJA........he was married.....
male captain, female supply sergeant both married
“So in order to give first amendment rights to gays in the military we have to strip the first amendment rights from everyone else in the military?”
That is what really scares me.
Political Correctness running amok.
This is sexual discrimination of the rankest kind!
Gays and Lesbians can bunk in barracks with the objects of their sexual desires but normal hetero males and females cannot.
If it is okay for gays to be assigned to male only barracks and “live with” men they would like to have sex with it should be okay for normal people to do likewise. Same sex barracks become an outmoded conceopt. After all, homos are really girly-men: they are male on the outside but their brain thinks they are girls.
To be fair the military must drop all restrictions on males and females being restricted to sleeping in same sex barracks. Me and women should be able to share barracks and sleeping quarters just as men and girly-men do.
Either that or legalize the old-fashion blanket party for homos.
“DADT shouild be repealed, back to the standard of Ask, and if the answer is wrong, out the door they go.”
This soldier says it should be...”Don’t try to enlist because we don’t want you or need you, and if you lie and sneek in, we will prosecute & punish you severely and then discharge you”
Exactly.
Indeed.
The principal behind separation of heterosexual men and women in showering, bunking, etc, - and who i hold should not serve together in any private close quarters, unless married - is what requires separation of homosexual men and women from those they seek to fornicate with. And where we derive these principals and precepts is a foundational issue, with the abandonment of it costing America plenty in souls, lives and money: http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/RevealingStatistics.html
No "allegedly" about it... The truth is that society has historically and repeatedly declared homosexual sex disordered. The fact that disorder is tolerated does not premise advancing it any further. Homosexual sex provides nothing of value to society or the military...
>The military will have 25% open homos within 3 years of said policy and will be weaker than the French army.<
http://www.cmrlink.org/HMilitary.asp?docID=378
At a March 18 Senate Armed Services Committee hearing, two former service members who had been discharged for homosexuality focused their testimony on their own personal stories. The third witness, retired Marine General John Sheehan, came across as a credible grown-up with more serious concerns on his mind.
Having served as NATOs Supreme Allied Commander Atlantic and as Commander-in-Chief for the U.S. Atlantic Command (1994-1997), Gen. Sheehan was uniquely qualified to provide strong testimony that weakened the claims of civilian gay activists who want Americas military to be more like European forces.
Referring to the military officials from nations that Sheehan led as NATO commander, Committee Chairman Carl Levin (D-MI) asked whether the general had discussed the issue with them. Did they tell you that they had unit cohesion or morale problems? Much to Levins surprise, Sheehan answered Yes and proceeded to provide details.
After the Soviet Union dissolved, Sheehan said, European nations began focusing on peacekeeping because “they did not believe the Germans were going to attack again or the Soviets were coming back.” After the collapse of the Soviet Union, Belgium, Luxembourg, the Netherlands and other European nations came to believe that there was no longer a need for an active combat capability in the militaries. “They declared a peace dividend and made a conscious effort to socialize their military - that included the unionization of their militaries; it included open homosexuality.
He continued,
That led to a force that was ill-equipped to go to war. The case in point that I am referring to is when the Dutch were required to defend Srebrenica against the Serbs. The battalion was under-strength, poorly led, and the Serbs came into town, handcuffed soldiers to the telephone poles, marched the [Bosnian] Muslims off, and executed them. That was the largest massacre in Europe since World War II.” 1
Chairman Levin asked whether Dutch leaders had told the general that the inclusion of homosexuals had contributed to the military debacle. Unlike some news reports’ descriptions, Gen. Sheehan chose his words carefully, saying that commanders he had spoken to included that as part of the problem
. [T]he combination was the liberalization of the military, a net effect, basically of social engineering. 2
Good! I hope your son knocked the homo’s lights out!
I have that episode on DVD.
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