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Imam TV Shock: Moving Mosque Would Endanger U.S. Troops. (Is he threatening us???)
The Blaze ^ | 09/09/10 | Scott Baker

Posted on 09/08/2010 11:55:01 PM PDT by American Dream 246

“If we move from that location, the story will be that the radicals have taken over the discourse.”

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To: John Galt's cousin
Perhaps they could use a Koran bonfire in Afganistan to lure the vermin out of the hills and kill them?

A number of FReepers have asked "what would Patton do?" That is what I think Patton would do. I'm not sure Patton would approve of or participate in using war as a diplomatic tool and soldiers as social engineers though.

161 posted on 09/09/2010 1:59:16 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: NEMDF

Yep, that belongs there too. Thanks.


162 posted on 09/09/2010 2:03:03 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: Arrowhead1952; himno hero
That is a great post. I have one similar to it.

Is 0bama a Muslim?

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163 posted on 09/09/2010 2:06:42 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: himno hero; Arrowhead1952
There is no such thing as moderate Islam.

I had a couple of thoughts on that too.

How can the doctrine of a religion, however it is written, surpass the actions of the founder of it? Even if he wrote it? All internecine arguments can be defeated by citing the founder's own actions. ie "How can X be wrong when the founder did X?"

Mohammed was a vicious murderer who forced conversion by the sword and murdered others for no reason at all. He was a pedophile and a thief. Anyone who argues that Muslims should not kill, steal etc., is, by definition, condemning the "prophet" Mohammed. It's a logical fallacy and the "moderate Islam" argument sinks in that quicksand.

Now add to that that the doctrine doesn't argue against murder, lying, stealing and so on, and actually encourages it, and there's nothing at all for a "moderate Muslim" to stand on within the framework of "Islam." To reject the mindset of violent psychosis IS to be apostate from Islam.

164 posted on 09/09/2010 2:12:54 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: TigersEye

SOOooooo true, and your list of criminality does him little justice. He was everything wrong in a mans body unless he was satans messenger.


165 posted on 09/09/2010 2:18:46 PM PDT by himno hero
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To: TigersEye; himno hero
How can the doctrine of a religion, however it is written, surpass the actions of the founder of it? Even if he wrote it?

I remember that mu HAM mad said that none of his followers were ever to have anything he did not have when he wrote his queeran. If that is the case, why do these 6th century animals need a 13 story mosque?

166 posted on 09/09/2010 2:24:18 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Remember in November. Clean the house on Nov. 2. / Progressive is a PC word for liberal democrat.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

or flying/crashing jets, using cars,computers or charmin?


167 posted on 09/09/2010 2:27:47 PM PDT by himno hero
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To: himno hero

Yes. I’ll have to see if I can find one of those threads on FR and ping yo to it. Probably won’t be today though.


168 posted on 09/09/2010 2:36:52 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Remember in November. Clean the house on Nov. 2. / Progressive is a PC word for liberal democrat.)
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To: P-Marlowe

Aren’t you likewise running a jihad FOR this loon? And I mean loon without exaggeration. He meets all the qualifications for loon WITHOUT the Koran burning issue.


169 posted on 09/09/2010 5:24:04 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: HiTech RedNeck; xzins
Aren’t you likewise running a jihad FOR this loon? And I mean loon without exaggeration. He meets all the qualifications for loon WITHOUT the Koran burning issue.

So did John the Baptist.

Will you join me in calling all Muslims to repent and be baptized in the Name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost?

And will you also join with me in encouraging them to publicly burn their Korans after they become Christians?

170 posted on 09/09/2010 5:47:36 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: TigersEye

I’ve heard a story about ‘publishing’ the fact that the soldiers (Brits?) dipped their bullets into pig fat (lard?) and that it scared the muzzies. They assumed that if they had been dispatched by a porcine bullet they would not get their ‘seven golden raisins’ or whatever their handlers told them the booby prize was to be.


171 posted on 09/09/2010 8:12:50 PM PDT by John Galt's cousin (Principled Conservatism NOW! * * * * * * * * * * Repeal the 17th Amendment!)
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To: John Galt's cousin

LOL Well, it sure won’t foul a firearm terribly if you lubricate your bullets with a light coating of bacon grease.


172 posted on 09/09/2010 8:23:12 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: P-Marlowe

Thanks for the ping!


173 posted on 09/09/2010 9:40:05 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: P-Marlowe

Frankly, missions to Muslims don’t care if they simply chuck their old Korans in a trash can.


174 posted on 09/10/2010 2:13:08 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Frankly, missions to Muslims don’t care if they simply chuck their old Korans in a trash can.

What if the trash can happens to be on fire? You have a problem with that?

175 posted on 09/10/2010 3:47:27 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe
What if the trash can happens to be on fire? You have a problem with that?

What about treasure from trash?

176 posted on 09/10/2010 11:39:53 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: American Dream 246

This crap isn’t going to end until muslims make a decision whether they’re on the side of the US or not, and state the answer publicly to all sides. Until then, they are enemies at worst and equivocators at best. Not to be trusted.


177 posted on 09/10/2010 12:09:25 PM PDT by GVnana (I'm a Mama Grizzly)
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To: RaceBannon
Islam Explained in Layman’s Terms

Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat.

Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.

Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.

When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well.

Here’s how it works:

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:

United States — Muslim 0.6%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1.8%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:

Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — Muslim 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections in:

Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77..5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrasses. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.

Today’s 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world’s population. But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world’s population by the end of this century.

Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat.

Well, boys and girls, today we are letting the fox guard the henhouse. The wolves will be herding the sheep!

Obama appointed two devout Muslims to Homeland Security posts. Doesn’t this make you feel safer already? Arif Alikhan as Assistant Secretary for Policy Development and Kareem Shora as ADC National Executive Director.

NOTE: Has anyone ever heard a new government official being identified as a devout Catholic, a devout Jew or a devout Protestant...? Just wondering.

Devout Muslims being appointed to critical Homeland Security positions? Doesn’t this make you feel safer already??

Was it not “Devout Muslims” who flew planes into U.S. buildings 8 years ago?

Was it not a Devout Muslim who killed 13 at Fort Hood?

178 posted on 09/10/2010 12:11:45 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Conflict is inevitable; Combat is an option. Train for the fight.)
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To: Publius6961

“There is a bigger story here, why isn’t that being articulated?”

OPINION: I think, I believe that bigger story is, and why I support General Patraeus on the burning of the Afghan language Bibles is to the effect that we DO have a Commander in Chief that DOES NOT support his military as he is responsible to do, therefore we have to think along the lines of what is the General’s next move, his next choice?

As a General in the position he is in, and during a war against barbarians of dubious humanity, and without the support of the Commander in Chief the mission to win the war becomes focused upon saving the lives of as many an American military personnel as one can possibly save under the circumstances.

I’d say General Patraeus has his hands full, and we aren’t helping matters crapping all over his head about burning some Bibles that very possibly would make that portion of his job of keeping our Soldiers alive that much more difficult.

If the General was allowed to fight this war to win it I’m certain things would be different. It isn’t going to happen under the Leftist/Moozie Obamajesty. It isn’t going to happen.

Impeach Obama as soon as we possibly can.


179 posted on 09/10/2010 12:50:29 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: American Dream 246
I'm SOOO tired of threats, direct and by innuendo, from this primitives that I honestly believe the end result...5, 10 even up to 20yrs from now will be Total War.

They intend to push an conquer, tirelessly, until they prevail or are eliminated.

180 posted on 09/10/2010 12:53:31 PM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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