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Speaker-in-waiting Boehner balances GOP factions
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Posted on 09/05/2010 6:23:45 PM PDT by Chet 99

WASHINGTON — John Boehner could walk down most American streets without turning a head.

But the perpetually tanned, chain-smoking Ohioan might be the next House speaker and a huge force in national politics, trying to manage an increasingly libertarian-leaning Republican caucus while leading the opposition to President Barack Obama's policies.

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To: streetpreacher

‘We need someone who can articulate what conservatism is and move an agenda.’

Henry Clay and James G. Blaine were Speakers who articulated their party policies. In the 20th century only Gingrich was successful as an articulator. The House is just too complicated for a non-technician to run it.


61 posted on 09/05/2010 7:09:57 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
They took full advantage of every opportunity they had/have in the spotlight.

Not completely true, at least not for Rayburn.

TV has changed the nature of American politics. When Rayburn was speaker, he did his work behind the scenes. Senate Majority Leader Lyndon Johnson did most of the talking during the Eisenhower years, and Rayburn let him take the limelight becuse he knew Lyndon wanted to run for president. Rayburn had no such ambitions, at least not after 1940.

During Eisenhower's years with a Democratic majority in Congress, Rayburn and Johnson would go down to the White House at the beginning of a congressional session along with the Republican leadership. Ike would serve bourbon and branch water while all the deals were made for the session. When Rayburn and Johnson went back to their respective Houses, they could count on the votes because party discipline was not something to be taken lightly.

Rayburn once said he was uncomfortable when the Democrats had too big a majority in the House because "all kinds of squirrely ideas" would get brought to the table, particularly from the Northeastern liberals.

You rarely saw Rayburn on the Sunday morning talkfests. He was content to let the committee chairs talk while he ran the House from behind the scenes.

62 posted on 09/05/2010 7:10:13 PM PDT by Publius (The government only knows how to turn gold into lead.)
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To: Chet 99

The second to last person I was to see as Speaker is Boehner!

Note: the first would be Pelosi of course.


63 posted on 09/05/2010 7:10:32 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: ColdOne

What would be the reaction if AP (accurately) described the other party’s leader as “the perpetually tanned, chain-smoking Obama”?


64 posted on 09/05/2010 7:11:07 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: gov_bean_ counter
But that's not a Majority (or Minority) Leader's job.

Gingrich wasn't a media star, either. And is Pelosi doing a bang-up job as spokesman for the majority?

One of the problems with being out of power is that it forces people who aren't "front men" into positions of media prominence. Who is the spokesman for the GOP right now?

Clue: There ain't one. And there won't be one until we have a presidential nominee.

That said, given a choice between an effective legislative leader and a "good hair" talking head, I'll take the effective operator every time.

65 posted on 09/05/2010 7:11:30 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Great short essay on term limits from the Heritage foundation. An explanation of why they are a bad idea, and how they will put control of the government into the hands of unelected bureaucrats.

They have examples of places where it was tried.

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Reports/2009/08/Confronting-Unlimited-Government-Lessons-from-the-Term-Limits-Movement

66 posted on 09/05/2010 7:11:46 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Publius

Rayburn... I’m not quite that long in the tooth. :)


67 posted on 09/05/2010 7:16:03 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this...)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Any good poly sci course in the legislative process would make all of this clear.


68 posted on 09/05/2010 7:18:11 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
I would suggest Robert Caro's four-volume biography "The Years of Lyndon Johnson", three of which have been published:
The Path to Power
Means of Ascent
Master of the Senate

Rayburn shows up in the second and third volumes, and he turns out to be a sympathetic and honest figure.

69 posted on 09/05/2010 7:20:06 PM PDT by Publius (The government only knows how to turn gold into lead.)
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To: iceskater
Get off your high horse...please. I’ve been writing/calling my reps doing my bit to try and stem the tide. NONE of them listened to me.

They didn't listen? How do you know?

70 posted on 09/05/2010 7:20:12 PM PDT by upsdriver (ret.)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

The Boehner haters are whacked out. I worked for a member on the Hill and Boehner has been exceptional at holding this caucus together. And he has been excellent at helping candidates who are running in very contested races. Very supportive...and been listening to these future members. I know this for a fact. He has the support of conservatives too. People on here don’t know what they are talking about.


71 posted on 09/05/2010 7:21:43 PM PDT by Reagan79 (Today, I consider myself the wisest Latina Woman on the face of the earth.)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
I don't need to be talked down to be a jerk. This is not about the legislative process. This is about an apparently good manager who can't articulate what the Republican Party believes in when given the opportunity.
72 posted on 09/05/2010 7:22:50 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this...)
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To: Chet 99

The guy is not “likeable”. He has no personality at all. I don’t think he is capable of smiling. I know this might sound silly, but this is not the kind of person we want to present as the new face of the Republicans. He is the stereotypical, old, mean Republican,the same old , same old that got voted out of office two years ago. Two years of this guy will have people looking at the Democrats again. We need someone who is likeable.


73 posted on 09/05/2010 7:23:27 PM PDT by curth (SarahPac: Over 2 million members! Are you in for $20.12?)
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To: upsdriver

Because of their votes.....how else?


74 posted on 09/05/2010 7:24:32 PM PDT by iceskater (I am a citizen - not a subject. Remember in November.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

I’ll bet he’d be a lousy astronaut too. So what?


75 posted on 09/05/2010 7:25:24 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Boehner is very popular in the House caucus. I doubt there is even 20 in private who would go against him.


76 posted on 09/05/2010 7:26:52 PM PDT by Reagan79 (Today, I consider myself the wisest Latina Woman on the face of the earth.)
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To: curth

Speaker Boehner will be virtually invisible during the Presidential campaign, which will start before he takes office. He won’t try to dominate politically like Gingrich.


77 posted on 09/05/2010 7:28:47 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
Reason and actual discussion means absolutely nothing. I hate coming to Democrats Underground. Oh crap, this is at Freerepublic now.

I've been enjoying your reasoned answers. Unfortunately, you might be wasting your time. The words militant and stupid aren't mutually exclusive.

78 posted on 09/05/2010 7:31:07 PM PDT by upsdriver (ret.)
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To: streetpreacher
I’m not saying he is a RINO or not a good conservative... I just don’t think he has the vision thing or is a great communicator.

I don't get why you, and a lot of other people here, are jumping on him when he's done a great job keeping Republicans in line aganist the ONE. A lot of you folks need to take a deep breath now and then.

79 posted on 09/05/2010 7:34:40 PM PDT by oflyboy ("History is philosophy taught with examples." - Lord Bolingbroke)
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To: Chet 99

Anybody else feel AP is getting ahead of themselves, like Ole Miss with a fourth quarter lead?


80 posted on 09/05/2010 7:38:38 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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