i own both, the M1-A i bought in 87 and the SOCOM last May i also have two HK-91's and an FN, and if i have to walk out the door, it'll be with the SOCOM...
Posted on 09/04/2010 8:10:09 AM PDT by em2vn
It was designed with input by U.S. Special Operations Command warriors for special ops missions to be lighter, more maneuverable and longer lasting.
Earlier this month, the MK-17 – dubbed the SCAR by its Belgian manufacturer FNH – went into "full rate production" making it the first new assault carbine to be purchased by the U.S. military since the M-16 and M-4 rifles went online four decades ago. The rifle is expected to be particularly valuable in situations like those faced by soldiers fighting in Afghanistan, where the weapon's additional range will provide a significant upgrade.
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“Assault carbine”
It’ll never end.
It's the year it was adopted for general military use, 1906.
Me too!
Don’t forget the russian cousins, 7.6s x 39 and 7.62 x 54R.
I love the SKS and the Mosin-Nagant.
7.62 x39! sheesh!
EXACTLY! Trust the Military Industrial Complex to figure out yet another way to suck the $$$ from our wallets to line theirs. What a bunch of maroons.
“Wouldn’t a cut back M14 but with a new lighter stock served as well.”
Springfield Armory makes a short M1A (semi-auto-only M-14) called the SOCCOM 16. I swear I’ve seen a photo of one with a selector switch too.
I don't get it. Each of those calibers (5.56x45, 7.62x39 and 7.62x51) will require a different magazine and a different barrel to function. Are military units going to carry all of those? What will the unit armorers concentrate on? The 7.62x39 isn't even a NATO standard round. Supply is going to be a PITA and for what?
In the tests that I have seen regarding the 16" barrel on the SOCOM M1A, the performance of the .308 through that length barrel was similar to 300 Savage (150 gr at 2600fps). The big tradeoff for the handiness of the shorter package was significantly increased muzzle blast and noise. And who is giving up 7" of barrel length? The SCAR has a 20" barrel option. The M14 barrel is 22" long.
Hand loads.
5.56x45-C4
Sent a bunch to Squantos, don't know if he has fired any though.
i own both, the M1-A i bought in 87 and the SOCOM last May i also have two HK-91's and an FN, and if i have to walk out the door, it'll be with the SOCOM...
"For years, the M16 and M4 have been the mainstay assault weapons of the special forces. Now Socom has a new assault rifle, the MK-17. Not only does it fire a larger caliber projectile that is deadlier at longer distances, but it has an interchangable barrel that allows it to be used for everything from close-range fighting to sniper fire."
The SOCOM warrior does not want to carry multiple weapons on a mission that may entail close quarters combat as well as long distance shooting.
Thanks in large part to Fox, use of any form of the verb "to be" is a sin these days in newsrooms across the nation.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
I don’t care what you have.
All I want is for your kid to be in my squad when the SHTF.
:)
Are the blocks of C4 on the top shelf at gun shop?
And 400 yard shots vice 50 yard shots.
Of course so gunner and Squantos can’t reach them!
I think the SKS is a near perfect gun. The AK-47 is cheaper to build, but its not as well made. I think that carrying and using strippers is better and faster than box mags. 90 rounds of stripped SKS ammo can go in a coat pocket, but three 30 round AK mags are quite bulky. The 7.62x39 is also a fanstastic round.
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